#1 2009-11-22 20:32:34

coeurl14

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Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

This is a fabulous agony & confession in & by all its own rites and rights, but also a distinctive coming-out-of the-dark -- do we need to say "closet"? -- for erotic strangulation which this smart couple and, in my particulars, the on-camera member -- a soulful, athletic presence -- talk about and do in such healthy-looking, guilt-free ways.

I suppose some can raise safety concerns, which I readily admit exist, but if folks race cars, climb mountains and  shoot off small arms, what exactly *is* the currency of risk for a far more concentrated and aesthetic pleasure, with a carbon footprint orders of magnitude smaller?

Thanks to Top and Bottom for your talent, courage and pleasure!

Cheers

Sam
NYC

lidia

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

Never having tried strangulation, I find these videos particularly fascinating. One of the (many) awesome things about this site is that you get to see both sides of the coin. Just seeing the strangulation and insults would be much more confronting if that was all you witnessed, but to see a gorgeous and obviously loving couple talk about how and why they do it, it's suddenly not so much of a big deal and I'm thankful for people like these two for demystifying a subject that is very easily misunderstood.

richard

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

Since he doesn't seem interested in posting here himself, I'll paste from an email, one subscriber's reaction to this video:

"I DO NOT want to see violence against women in ANY form on this site. If I wanted to see sick shit like that I would go elsewhere. I don't care if the woman appears to 'enjoy' being slapped around and throttled. I do NOT and it's not what I paid a subscription to see. If you are going to allows this kind of twisted shit on your otherwise excellent site, at least have do me ( and others no doubt) the courtesy of warning us of this kind of content."

359

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

Oh what a lovely email. As a woman who enjoys being consensually slapped around it's about time a man put me in my place and ensured that experiences like this remain invisible.

coeurl14

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

^from above^ -- "I DO NOT want to see violence against women in ANY form on this site. If I wanted to see sick shit like that I would go elsewhere. I don't care if the woman appears to 'enjoy' being slapped around and throttled. I do NOT and it's not what I paid a subscription to see. If you are going to allows this kind of twisted shit on your otherwise excellent site, at least have do me (and others no doubt) the courtesy of warning us of this kind of content."

The writer -- who could have stopped watching when the deplored behavior  started happening -- isn't distinguishing between fantasy and reality. And it isn't "violence against women," either: it's sex between a! woman and a man. Moreover, fair as warning goes, the peak thumbnail does show the woman with a hand around her throat.

But more to the point, this objection amounts to arguing that, because we don't want to have bad marriages, it's risky for us to play the leading roles in a community theater production of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf," as if play-acting and role-playing had anything to do with reality. Contrarily, the happy fact is they have intimately and vitally to do with *fantasy,* specifically with having a healthy, satisfying fantasy-cum-sexual life. 

Put all that together with how people have, as I said in my initial post above, a god-and-human-given right to take risks, with the rest of us entitled to far less right to tell them which risks to take or not. And that they do it publicly adds to my pleasure and education.  People are made of sex and rage, and this is how we civilize those drives and still keep some pleasure pulsating: with expressive, healing drama, and arousing risk.

Anyone have a preferable alternative?

If theres any more of "this kind of content" here, I'd love to know the clip #'s.

Thanks!

Last edited by coeurl14 (2009-11-29 22:17:04)

richard

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

I see he has now posted this on the general forum:

http://beautifulagony.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1284

coeurl14

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

Thanks Richard!

Any way we can combine these parallel  threads to avoid the inevitable redundancy that's already occurred?

Maybe it was me putting my original post on this forum and not the other but I found it an ambiguous call between "beautiful agony" and "general discussion."

Mainly, though, love your site, wh8ich among other things has helped me map out unsuspected areas of my erotic character.

0536

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

Mainly, though, love your site, wh8ich among other things has helped me map out unsuspected areas of my erotic character.

That's one of the best, most concise statement I've heard about what Agony does for sexuality.  Cool.

mariem

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

I've often wondered about how erotic choking/strangulation would feel during sex. But it seems to freak people out when I mention it, so have never tried

bjd392

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

I think it's funny how there was a complaint against Ms. 1663's video sharing an erotic moment like that, but no follow-on comments to Ms. 1683 who seems to enjoy having something wrapped around her neck.  I definitely think those two videos were wonderful creations.

I had a petite girlfriend 10 years ago who looked very innocent and naive on the outside, but she loved it rough behind closed doors.  I frequently held her neck to feel her pulse rising, and I'd squeeze a little, then release to get that rush to her head.  Her mind was blown.  Granted, I never did anything that would border the edge of violence or strangulation, but a little bit of submissive choking was quite fun and pleasureable.

mariem

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Re: Ms 1663 & erotic strangulation

That sounds really sexy