#76 2006-04-11 07:21:35

Garybobs

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

NWarner wrote:

"This is in reply to the... second post on this thread.. I believe the post was from Garybobs. My apologies for how late it comes, I've only recently discovered here."

"Art can be anything, but most arguably relevant, can be depicted by showing an individual at their most intimate, emotional -- vulnerable. Art is tasteful, derived through opinion. Art is anything that has a deeper meaning, whether that meaning is solely understood by the artist, or understood by the audience also. It is the audience who themselves diminish the quality of art by degrading it, treating it as though it were something it is not. Art is beyond the surface, baring that vulnerability to which few can derive from their own souls, creating something which speaks without words or thoughts. If anyone could simply do this, without effort, thought, or loss, art would be meaningless. She has given up a piece of herself, her intimacy, her vulnerability, her emotion, to the world."

Garybob Says: What qualifies as Art is really a subjective matter I think. If you think Ruby  portrays art, then you have every right do so and I am NOT offended by that. You're still cool. Once A I saw on cable T.V. a display of a urinal which the "artist" called...."art". To some yes I suppose, but to me, I just wanted to go take a piss! Also heard of the "art" piece wherein the "artist" place a crucifix upside in a jar of urine. Some were, like yourself, offended, but others were enthralled. I still do not understand the "deeper meaning" of that one. But that's just me.

"Notably, she is not performing the sexual act in a public arena, she is performing a sexual act in private, later expressing it in the context of art “in a public arena”. "

Garybob says: Private? I think the internet can safely be classified as "public". But that's just me.

"To be blunt: I would want her to be the mother of my grandchildren’s parents, even without watching the video, seeing her face, or hearing her voice, because she has done something that few can truly understand, that even less could achieve, and that an imperceptible handful will appreciate in it’s most raw depth. Will I call this statement as a blanket to everyone here? No. Is she special? Yes."

Garybob says: Oh, she's special alright. Real special.

"I take offence in reading your derogatory gambit averring that the art contained herein is actually porn. Does our sense of morality openly condemn sexual activity outside of a bed with covers? Are we civilized because we distance ourselves from animals and their behaviours, yet arguably still endorse the behaviour, with ethical restrictions? Does assuming a stance of righteousness give one the right to speak condescendingly?"

Garybob Says: We are civilized because we DO NOT have sex in public places, as animals do. We are civilized because we have a free exchange of idea and thoughts without going to war....in some cases. And I agree that sexual activity outside the bedroom can be a wonderful thing...as long as the shades are closed! Would you want your children to stand gawking at your neighbors doing it doggy-style? Would you feel comfortable walking down the street with your mother, or the mother of your grandchildren's parents watching Tom and Suzie butt-nekit on the lawn doing the 69 slurp?

"I can say, that easily, more than 50% of the populace masterbates more than once in their lifetime. It’s natural, healthy, and beautiful. The stigmas attached are part of an old boys club which cannot seem to accept that the views of the world are changing. What may be art tomorrow may not be today, what may be accepted today may not be tomorrow. "

Garybobs Says: Masturbation is indeed healthy and I would agree that more than 50% of the populace does it. But what percentage of them do it in public? No one is condemning masturbation, sir/maam.

"Our sexuality is something that we should share, that we shouldn’t feel ashamed of, and that we should educate others on. Imagine how many children grow up with psychological problems because of what they were told in their youth about sexuality? How many of them will in turn pass those fallacies on to their future children? I can’t even begin to think of the abuse which is caused because of … “values” which aren’t that … germane. To be blunt oncemore, even in public, we’re still naked beneath our robes, don’t act as if we’re not."

Garybob Says: Okay, let's share our sexuality, shall we? What does that mean, sir? If children are screwed up, it's likely because they have parents who, instead of guiding them toward decency, become "life-models" and pose naked while explaining to their children why mommy and daddy can go butt-naked for the whole world to see. It's sexual freedom, afterall and piss on anyone who thinks otherwise.

"As a final wrap-up of my reply to the second post..
Life of debauchery? Are you serious? I’m speechless as to how offensive, derogatory, and demeaning that is, especially in this forum. This only goes to further the old boys club adage, where if you’re not a proper lady, you’re not a lady at all. Disgusting."

Garybob Says: I am no member of an "old boy's club" sir. I stand on my own, as a member of my own club against the tide of group-think. I take the heat and stay in the ring. And I can take off the gloves when I need to. I do not need to be part of the crowd to feel whole or like I belong. Old boys club? Hah!!!

"I can’t even begin to further comment on the hypocritical messages within this thread… It fills my heart with sorrow to know that such art is not understood, let alone appreciated as art. As a message to the artist(s), No true artist understood the contributions they gave in their lifetime.. Only now do we honestly credit them with the admiration they deserve."

Garybob says:  But that's where you have me all wrong, sir. I DO appreciate what Ruby does!!  She does a wonderful job of giving me exactly the sexual experience I paid for. There's a word for that...but I dare not say it! 

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ruby

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Garybob- i left this conversation. You bored me, but I do need to address a consistent slur that you continue to throw at me.

If you continue to insinuate that i am a whore, prostitute etc i will be asking my kind friends the forum moderators to 'moderate'

but oh, i remember you have let your subscription to ba lapse, because you have a new favourite site, ifm. And you’re a making a wonderful impression on all the kind ladies on that forum too. Interestingly you have really let yourself go over there and am revealing the inner delusion.  A note for the future Gary, no young woman will ever desire you. Ever, full stop. Stop fooling yourself

I am really excited for you to see my full body agony, because I know that you never feel an inkling of guilt when you allow the visual stimuli to take you to the peak of orgasm.  The ultimate voyeur exists because we all know in reality Gary a woman like me, and the rest of the contributors on BA, IFM or ISM wouldn’t give you the time of day.

So you can watch and you can wank, feel free. Enjoy yourself, get what you paid for.

Because we both know that I am the beautiful young woman making money off ugly old men like you. Whose sexual desire and appeal are felt by no one anymore, so that you wallow in a slobbering mess, choking at the bit and waiting for the next lovely young lass to ogle and fantasise about.

Let there be no confusion, mister there can be no debate. I have the upper hand, and you are just a stale old man who left it all too late.

kirkpa

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Lauren is going to set the Bees on him

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Garybobs

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Ruby, flattery will get you nowhere.

But I suspect that many a man, both young and old, will "feel your desire".

Congratulations! You've earned it. You have much to be proud of.

BTW, no one SAID you were a prostitute, whore, etc...  Wherever did you get that idea?? You are the first to even use such a word. But, moderate away? Can't have you being bored now can we?

Peace be on you Ruby my friend 

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Garybobs

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Interestingly you have really let yourself go over there and am revealing the inner delusion.

Spoken like a true pillar of intellectual research. Ten years did you say?

Bishop Of Bath & Wells

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Okay, I think the time has come to freeze this thread, in fact my preference would be to have it deleted entirely.

Bish

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Garybobs

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Agreed!!

kirkpa

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Bravo

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NWarner

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

BTW, no one SAID you were a prostitute, whore, etc...  Wherever did you get that idea?? You are the first to even use such a word. But, moderate away? Can't have you being bored now can we?

Not to continue a finished thread, but look up the word Debauchery, GB. You most certainly did use it. If you don't know the meaning, don't use the word.

PC elmo

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Re: After #3 I only have one Question - Ruby will you marry me??

Okay, I think the time has come to freeze this thread, in fact my preference would be to have it deleted entirely.

Bish

Yeah, enough is enough.    I think marriage is certainly a valid topic for a thread, though -- perhaps someone should try again.

As to deleting this:  since that hasn't happen yet, we may as well keep it.  I'd rather have newcomers see where we've been than travel those roads again....

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