Hand to Throat on 489

Fedor1 · 2006-03-15 04:41:32

In watching #489's hand going up to her throat often it occured to me that we have not had an BA's where the subject has used erotic choking to enhance the orgasm.
Obviously that technique did not work out so well for Michael Hutchence, the former lead singer of INXS, but it can be used safely and effectively.....ummmm...at least that's what I have heard.

erdna · 2006-03-15 04:57:37

Fedor1, I liked quite a lot the agony and the confession of this lady (Ms#489). She seems to be straight forward and sincere. However we can see there is a inside fighting between how she feels and what she would like to do with other women. I hope she will find her way to be completely happy. On the other hand I don't think so she is trying to choke herself (even partially). She just put her hand on her neck and that's all. A natural gesture. Very interesting girl.

Garybobs · 2006-03-15 05:05:13

Pardon me for interjecting here Fedor1 but it sounds like what you are suggesting is violence. Sexual violence is violence...not sex.

Although my limited experience has not afforded many experiences, I am aware that some people enjoy sadism, masochism and even near death experiences during sex.

Nevertheless, I do not think that BA would be the place for such displays or behaviors. In my humble opinion, violence against women, no matter how it is framed and even if it is consensual, is not a good thing and certainly nothing to go .....ummmmmmm over.

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Nowaysis · 2006-03-15 13:21:24

I assume you object strongly to the spanking-overkill ?

richard · 2006-03-15 14:29:28

Garybobs wrote:

Pardon me for interjecting here Fedor1 but it sounds like what you are suggesting is violence. Sexual violence is violence...not sex.

I don't think it necessarily even comes under the description of consential violence, let alone masochism. I know a girl who loves being throttled but it has nothing to do with pain, she just loves the feeling of being oxygen deprived. If we received such a video and there was no indication it was an expression of violence I don't see why we woudln't show it.

Fedor1 · 2006-03-15 15:03:13

Thanks for coming to my defense guys. Garybobs, It's not a violence thing at all bud, but I can see how the uninitiated would think so, which is why I hesitated about contributing the post. Funny thing is that I have never done it alone. I have done it only a half a dozen times with my wife and my only complaint is that she tends to loosen her hands/scarf at the most important "juncture", I guess it's because my face gets red or whatever.

Garybobs · 2006-03-15 18:16:57

Nowaysis wrote:

I assume you object strongly to the spanking-overkill ?

Spanking is a far cry from oxygen deprivation but to answer your question, I do not object as much as I would to choking someone. I just don't think it is nice to strike your partner under any circumstances. Even if they enjoy it.

Richard, this is where my lack of experience really reveals itself. What the heck is being "throttled"? In any case, you can show what you want. I remember the submission of the girl being whipped or something like that. Looked like it hurt to me and I personally do not think that hurting your partner is.....sexy! But people have different tastes.

Fedor1:

Wasn't attacking you and no need for the rescue, was just expressing my shock over the suggestion. So you enjoy being choked/strangled during sex? I can't imagine the pleasure that comes with that sort of interaction but more power to ya. I just hope your wife doesn't become angry and go too far one day. I'd hate to learn somehow that you suffered some serious trauma.

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Fedor1 · 2006-03-15 20:01:27

Okay, I quizzed my roommates (I am helping out Katrina Victims in New Orleans and not currently living at home) and 3 out of 4 have tried choking during sex and liked it, so I'm pretty sure this is not a fringe thing.
Thanks for your concern Garybobs, I have purposely set my lifre insurance policy at a level that would give my wife security, but not incentive.

Garybobs · 2006-03-15 21:42:59

LOL.

I could learn a lesson or two from you. Seems my wife has all the incentive she needs to take me out. Not to mention a few fellow forum members here.

ashmedi · 2006-03-16 03:15:56

Well, I just had to go and re-view it. I don't see any signs of violence, or any intentional choking. I see her holding her throat and neck (may be stimulating or soothing to her, maybe thats her zone), and caressing it. Not unlike some of the others who do the same (can't remember numbers) or who hold or caress their breasts or other parts during the afterglow.

Don't see anything bad, just a girl who is enjoying herself.

erdna · 2006-03-16 04:52:55

Garybobs, don't be complaisant when the safety of somebody is questionable. Your first reaction was the good one. As you said, spanking never was a threat for oxygen deprivation but choking (even partially) somebody even for sexual enhancement purpose is a danger for his/her safety. A lot of illegal drugs have the same purpose and they are dangerous. 2 more persons (young girls) died recently in my region because of that.
Richard, I am very surprised you talked about a case where choking is involved. You have as an administrator a certain responsability.

Iso · 2006-03-16 05:12:37

For Fedor1 or anyone else considering reading (let alone responding to) virtually any post by GaryBobs, I have four words:

Don't feed the troll.

PC elmo · 2006-03-16 07:13:30

Now that's what I call a jibe! (Don't worry, he can take it )

I'm glad Fedor1 brought this up, because that was my first thought, too, when I saw Ms #489's agony. But I agree, I don't think that's what she's trying to do.

I'm a little surprised it's as popular as is suggested. It's clearly not a fringe thing -- for your roommates. Instinctively, I'd think far more people would experience more intense orgasms with more oxygen, rather than less. There are numerous agonees who demonstrate the dramatic effects breathing can have on orgasms and vice versa, but the ones I'm thinking of are all about breathing more -- more quickly, more intensely, etc. I've heard of holding one's breath into orgasm and sex on an airplane and such, but in general I thought that trend was more of a fetish, like bondage or suspension from piercings.

I guess the only thing that's for sure is that we're all different!

Garybobs · 2006-03-16 08:16:41

That's it! I'm changin my screen name to Troll or Trollybob or something thereabouts.

Erdna

thanks but I'm not backing down from my first post. I still think that causing someone to feel pain is unacceptable. I still have no idea what "throttling" is but if it involves hurting someone, and it sounds like that is what Richard meant, then I don't agree with it.

At the same time, I understand that people have all kinds of tastes, i.e red-sex, scat, urine, mutilation, groin-stomping, etc.... I just think that at some point, you have to, or should, draw a line and say enough already! Where does sex cross the line and become nothing more than vile, deviant or violence disguised as sexual freedom?

To reiterate, hitting a woman with ANYTHING for ANY reason is a no go in my book and choking anyone, male or female is way over the top. The risk of death or serious brain injury due to oxygen deficiency is beyond what I would catgorize as "acceptable risk". Even if it's for the sake of consensual pleasure, accidents do happen and try explaining THAT to the cops.

Anyway, Fedor1 seems like a good guy and if he enjoys being choked, then like I said, more power to him. It's his life.

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Fedor1 · 2006-03-16 14:38:58

Okay to clarify:
#1 I never thought #489 was trying to choke, but like PC Elmo that's what it made me think of.
#2 It is not a pain issue, there is no pain, but I suppose there could be some danger, never really thought about it and only do it with my wife.
#3 I hope this goes without saying, but I am not into the aforementioned groin-stomping, scat, urine, etc. YUCK Garybobs, I am never feeding your Troll again.

Garybobs · 2006-03-16 17:45:14

LOL. Good Fedor1. Glad you're playin it safe. And whether you feed my troll or not, your input here is valuable. I hope you stick around for a good while. Your post raised some interesting discussion.

BTW: I don't think anyone inferred that you were into the deviant stuff.

northdallas1968 · 2006-03-20 22:00:22

Garybobs wrote:

Pardon me for interjecting here Fedor1 but it sounds like what you are suggesting is violence. Sexual violence is violence...not sex.
Although my limited experience has not afforded many experiences, I am aware that some people enjoy sadism, masochism and even near death experiences during sex.
Nevertheless, I do not think that BA would be the place for such displays or behaviors. In my humble opinion, violence against women, no matter how it is framed and even if it is consensual, is not a good thing and certainly nothing to go .....ummmmmmm over.

Garybobs -
Autoerotic asphyxiation is not violence per say though the practice has been known to lead to accidental deaths in celebs such as Michael Hutchins of INXS.

Persons like Michael just get an extra jolt from the orgasm arriving at a time when their oxygen supply is very limited. It seems to cause a hightening of the senses.

You will see many couples and singles that seem to grasp their throats before orgasm - just not to the point of true loss of consciouness

Garybobs · 2006-03-23 08:03:26

So it's called "Autoerotic asphyxiation" is it? Well, I've learned yet another thing her at BA.

That's all very interesting North but it seems like an unacceptable risk to me. I mean, even if death does not result from this act, severe brain damage can occur it seems from the oxygen loss. Perhaps even a stroke from releasing the coratid artery and allowing the blood to rush back into the brain with such force.

I'm no doctor but that seems pliable to me. I'm not sure why anyone would do this but, whatever! I just hope no one here has an unfortunate situation while trying this out.

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PC elmo · 2006-04-18 06:12:12

Well, here's something a little more "pliable," perhaps (definitely safer) ...

PC elmo wrote:

There are numerous agonees who demonstrate the dramatic effects breathing can have on orgasms and vice versa ...

I did have specific agonies in mind, but I didn't bother trying to point them out -- I was staying up WAY too late during a week night! I'm surprised I was as coherent as I was. I guess all the buzz about the new site was just too exciting to stay away. (And it's well worth all the fuss -- check it out if you haven't already!) Anyway...

Check out the sudden changes in breathing in #30 especially, and also in #142. Also listen to Ms #66 during her orgasm. There is also the sudden bursting effect in #13, and the very breathy climax in 136 / OV0022. One of my favorite examples of sustained really heavy breathing is Ms #48, and of course Ms #238 is the queen of rapid-fire short breaths. The spontaneous change in breathing at 3:56-4:00 in Ms #238's first submission is simply sensational, and her orgasms are off the chart!

I've never been given oxygen through a mask myself (I don't think), but I've heard it can sometimes have the effect of being high. I suppose there could be an element of danger/risk with such an apparatus, and that's clearly the case with autoerotic asphyxiation.

Consciously changing one's breathing, however (except for holding one's breath for a long time), seems to me a little extra with which anyone can experiment safely.

Fedor1 · 2006-04-20 14:59:40

Okay, for those who were worried, I just went home for a week and my wife did the "choking thing" unsolicited at the end of a session and I managed to survive.
Although she did say "are you okay?" at the conclusion.
Hey, is anyone willing to bet me that Ms. 508 has tried it?

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