Cpls videos

PC elmo · 2006-02-11 01:39:28

I was hesitant to put forth a response so soon, but I see some misguided antimony has spilled over into other threads. No worries!

Sorry about the cross-thread quoting, but I think this may be very helpful here.

Garybob wrote:

As you may have found so far, I am the lone voice in the forum that pisses everyone off by saying things that people just don't want to hear/read.

That's actually a little self-aggrandizing, when you stop to think about it. I think part of why you see everyone as pissed off at you is that you expect that to be the case. So you see it, whether it's there or not.

I think what I was ranting at was a similar case of projection. I couldn't care less how you think other men think, but what was unsettling was the dismissiveness toward any un-guy-ish or not-stripper-like motives. For example, when you see a man hold the door for a woman, do you really believe that gesture is meant as a possible invitation to sex? It's not that I don't want to hear/read such outlandish generalizations -- they can be downright hilarious! It gets a little scary, though, when people actually believe they are real.

Perhaps this is a kinder, gentler means of hinting at much the same thing:

What is this stuff you guys are talking about?

"There are more things in heaven and earth ... than are dreamt of in your philosophy." (and ole' Shakey actually said that one! )

I assure you, my excited affect was not hostility. Haven't you ever been accused of thinking with something other than your brain before?

I do know I got carried away, though , because I completely forgot to mention syzygy -- Welcome back! It's been a while.

And of course, much warm thankage to Katherine for shedding some much-needed insights on our meanderings. Always appreciated.

Would any other agonees like to tell us about their motivations? (pretty please )

Garybob · 2006-02-12 05:56:01

Self-aggrandizing??? Okay then, if I accept this assessment then the hot-headed responses to some of my posts is just imagined and the "excited affect(s)" and "ranting(s)" were misinterpreted. Apology accepted!!!

Elmo, you are obviously a well educated and thoughtful individual. How you could then allow yourself to get "excited" or "rant" over something posted in a porn forum is....curious.

Actually, no I have never been accused of thinking with something other than my brain. I am the sort who asks, "If I do this, what will be the likely end result"? or "If he/she says that, what is the likely end goal"? It can get kind of annoying, I know and those who know me frequently tell me so. I am not the angry type, rather I am the calculating type.

Nevertheless, I too am becoming bored with the forum. Much of the same thing being posted, some interesting posts with interesting comments and discussion, but mostly the same sort of thing, same compliments, same arguments, same-same-same. I'm really looking forward to the new sister-site to this one which will hopefully be up and running this month. Think I'll take a break from this forum for a while unless something really interesting is posted.

So, talk to ya all later. Meanwhile, I'll be off "Enjoying my world and the philosopy I dream of therein".

Fedor1 · 2006-02-12 14:45:55

It appears as though we may have a recent post that involves an agony through intercourse.

Jo · 2006-02-12 17:40:26

Garybob wrote:

Nevertheless, I too am becoming bored with the forum. Much of the same thing being posted, some interesting posts with interesting comments and discussion, but mostly the same sort of thing, same compliments, same arguments, same-same-same. I'm really looking forward to the new sister-site to this one which will hopefully be up and running this month.

And you really think, the comments there will be of a higher level???

Bishop Of Bath & Wells · 2006-02-12 18:15:03

Jo wrote:

Garybob wrote:
Nevertheless, I too am becoming bored with the forum. Much of the same thing being posted, some interesting posts with interesting comments and discussion, but mostly the same sort of thing, same compliments, same arguments, same-same-same. I'm really looking forward to the new sister-site to this one which will hopefully be up and running this month.
And you really think, the comments there will be of a higher level???

Perhaps it would be a good idea to merge the three message boards into a single forum? In other words, rather than one for ISM, one for BA, and one for the new site, just have a central board that anyone (so long as they are current members of one or more of the sites) can contribute to? Just an idea.

Bish

AceHoly · 2006-02-14 14:08:38

Garybob wrote:

Self-aggrandizing??? Okay then, if I accept this assessment then the hot-headed responses to some of my posts is just imagined and the "excited affect(s)" and "ranting(s)" were misinterpreted. Apology accepted!!!

Ah. Once again, Garybob whips open his intellectual raincoat to reveal the embarrassingly meager equipment concealed beneath. He am funny, he make me laugh.

GB (if I may call you that, and I will anyway) you mistake the Forum En Toto's response to your chest-beatings as anger, when instead it is rather more like laughter mixed with a tinge of derision - and perhaps a dash of pity thrown in for flavor. You likely won't see that, however, because in the Tao of GB, only GB's unique take on the world (it being populated with hyper-hormoned porn junkies expecting to woo and bed the "stripper-mentality" ladies who grace these pages, and such) comes into play.

You propose that no true passion can be had by "agonistas" who perform in front of a camera. Perhaps such is the case in the celibate world of GB, but here in the Real World, the entire concept of your image being caught and 'cast as you expose your most intimate side (not the genitals, but the "O" face) throws an entirely HEIGHTENED sense of passion into the process. Hadn't thought of that, GB, or just hadn't experienced it?

I won't pause to argue that this site doesn't have explicit porn uses; clearly it does, as does its sister site. Where you miss the boat but still walk off the pier is with your GB version of the site user's expectations: no one of age expects that BA is going to be some sort of video dating service; in most instances, everyone's fav "performers" are geographically undesirable, and likely not available for dinner, movie and a nightcap (or quickie, in your case.) Likewise, the ladies who submit don't do so under a contingency of getting YOU or any other specific user to view and re-view their submission for further monetary reward. A stripper WANTS you to fall in love with her so you'll buy more lap dances (as long as you return to a normal state of mind when your wallet empties). There is no analogy to the contributors of BA.

So, GB - "whoopsie" on your part. You claim to not write what you do to incite the masses, even though you clearly seem to expect it. Wish fulfillment? Who knows - the veil of secrecy around GB's thought processes is pretty foggy. I, too, claim not to write this to incite the masses. I intend only to amuse them (as you inadvertantly do) and only acknowledge that this missive will likely incite you, Mr. GaryRobert.

Guess that means I won't be voted Mayor in your Nogginville, but lest you think you can wander freely through the forum as the Pied Piper of GaryBob, trailing a street-length of unsavory rats behind you that you drop off in posts at your convenience; you amuse. Perhaps you once courted a stripper yourself and were amazed that she wouldn't marry you when the ATM ran dry? Don't worry, the world of GaryBob seems very insulated and you should be safe there.

Don't be offended if no one else chooses to reside there, though. The laws are just a bit skewed.

Ace

PC elmo · 2006-02-18 03:03:26

Fedor1 wrote:

It appears as though we may have a recent post that involves an agony through intercourse.

I agree! Much thanks to those contributors!

Garybobs · 2006-03-04 00:47:05

Ace:

Very interesting and entertaining commentary. I commend you on your writing ability. Stand-up comedy must be your strong point.

Notwithstanding the many inaccuracies and outright falacious claims you've made, to wit:

"You propose that no true passion can be had by "agonistas" who perform in front of a camera", and "Where you miss the boat but still walk off the pier is with your GB version of the site user's expectations", etc...

It is interesting that you should expend so much time and effort in fabricating such a response. It is even more interesting that you should feel the need to be so rude and insulting about something that doesn't pertian to you. Or does it?

Endless banter over where you've misquoted and twisted something I've said is pointless. You have very eloquently, and very humorously I might add, demonstrated your "real world" view of things.

I'm happy to take this one on the chin and forego any dissapointment that the laws in my own world, in your opinion, are skewed, realizing of course that to one such as yourself who rants much ado about nothing that is personally relevant, [or is it?] they must necessarily be so.

So is the devide between our two worlds. Your's being the real one where no one ever walks off the pier, and my own where walking off the pier is done all the time when the "pier" or [peer] is built on unreasoned capitulation.

May you live and prosper!!

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jamesd · 2006-03-04 06:49:05

Garybob, you appear to lack expeience with couples video sites, which contain large volumes of video material freely contributed by people doing so for their enjoyment and having fun doing so. The range of things which excites and arouses people is large and does include people who enjoy being watched and filmed for the enjoyment of themselves and others.

Garybobs · 2006-03-05 03:45:23

James:

I totally AGREE with you and I believe that there are people who do contribute for their own enjoyment and for the enjoyment of others.

I DO NOT believe that EVERYONE who contributes, nor EVERYONE who watches such material does so for some naferious reason or because of some psychological defect. Still, I believe that SOME people DO contribute/watch because of psychological issues.

That was my whole point all along. That is the message that got twisted. That is why I found it curious that SOME who claimed to be living in the "real world" took such offense. If nothing sinister or deviant applies, why go nuts and put so much effort into finding ways to be outspokenly insulting??? Simply say, "it doesn't apply to me" and move on. That's all.

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erdna · 2006-03-05 05:09:39

Garybobs, congratulations for your new name with an "s".
I believe people doing agonies or nude shot are doing that to show the world they exist. With the cult of celebrities displayed on TV, films, news papers, magazines etc.., a lot of people feel very small and want to do something. I mentioned already that everybody wants his/her ten minutes of being famous. Actually, this idea is from Andy Warhol.
Also, I think Australia now is living an era of sexual revolution. That happened to Spain few years ago after many years of sexual repression both from the church or the government, and there are still countries waiting for this revolution, that can be also a reaction to a too strict education. People doing it say it's fun, they feel sexy... Actually I think they express their satisfaction to have done something of their own and quite unusual for the first time. Maybe I am becoming too heavy.

AceHoly · 2006-03-05 15:35:47

I see, GaryBob(s), that despite your written intent to take it on the chin (and isn't THAT a double entendre!!) and let the matter dissipate, you've chosen to come round the back door (and isn't THAT a double entendre!!) and poke at my writings once again. And isn't THAT a double entendre!!

It's a lovely follow-up claim that your message was twisted and you've been sadly misrepresented. How I must be sinister or deviant! Bad Ace!

Or....

Garybobs wrote:

Endless banter over where you've misquoted and twisted something I've said is pointless.

That would be because I neither misquoted nor twisted what you wrote. That you may not appreciate having your text failings rehashed for the general populace may simply make it harder for you to retract them. I might suggest a cold shower for that purpose. Brrrr, cold but good! Retraction complete!

GaryBob - in either the singular or the new plural version, making you sort of like a self-contained version of the Tweedle brothers of L. Carroll's creation (you decide which is the Dee or the Dum) - in your subsequent responses you've made one of the classic blunders. (One is never start a land war in Asia.) In your case you try to obsfucate not by defending your posts or pointing out actual discrepancies in your opponent's words, but by instead making claims without any sort of back-up and then attempting to spin the viewing audience into believing that your opponent has a hidden, perhaps lascivious, agenda.

That makes for a great Word Salad, and certainly shows you are adept at tossing one. However, as the ubiquitous Bruce Willis might say: "BZZZZT! Wrong again, Hans!"

Allow the briefest of trips down memory lane (sparing the gentle reader the need for hitting the "back" button):

Garybob wrote:

Well, it is my humble opinion that any time a couple starts having sex in front of a camera, even if the couple intends for the tape to remain private, no real sense of passion can be displayed in conjuction with the knowledge that a camera is filming the act(s).

No real sense of passion, hmmm? Can't conceive the very likely scenario that in actuality the concept of being videotaped would likely heighten that passion?

Profundity number two:

Garybob wrote:

I haven't quite figured out what the motivation is for women on this site to do what they do, maybe they get paid, maybe it's just that they get noticed, I dunno. but whatever the impetus is, it can't be much different than the analogy above.

For clarity, the "analogy above" was a reference to a stripper's motivations:

Garybob wrote:

She wants your money, honey and will do whatever it takes within the confines of the club to get you to extract the green contents of your wallet.

Yet, humble contributors to this site aren't paid by number of downloads for their individual agonies, so why would you ascribe stripper mentality to them? Again, I can't help but wonder if such an event did not befall you in a scarring fashion - perhaps because you failed to put a crisp fiver in your bride's garter before the ceremony and she left with the cab driver? Pure speculation, of course.

(By the way, GB(s), to help you avoid further pitfalls, please know that the other classic blunder is "Never Bet with a Sicilian when Death is on the Line.")

I respond to your posts not because you've managed to find some welled-up dark secret of mine and exposed it with the light of your insight. I respond instead as a startled bystander might when finding a customer rampaging in a China Shop. No one likes to see things bumped and broken by one who just doesn't understand his surroundings. Two, it is our nature when viewing such a spectacle to point at the offender and describe him as he appears. In this case: Bull.

It could also be a matter of giving someone a taste of his own medicine... but if I go that route I'll only end up quoting Mary Poppins, which would date me and possibly excite you. Let's just not go there.

In the end, let me give you some advice from one of our era's most prolific philosophers:

Garybobs wrote:

If nothing sinister or deviant applies, why go nuts and put so much effort into finding ways to be outspokenly insulting??? Simply say, "it doesn't apply to me" and move on. That's all.

That is one smart dude. In the future, you really should follow his advice.

Bishop Of Bath & Wells · 2006-03-05 18:04:16

Come on people, let's not use this forum for petty squabbles.

Please?

Bish

Garybobs · 2006-03-05 18:51:10

"That would be because I neither misquoted nor twisted what you wrote."

I forget, your real world view allows you to be judge and jury over all matters relevant to everyone. Great editing job by the way! I take back my suggestion that you must be a stand-up comic. More like a leftist journalist perhaps? CNN? NPR?? Or worse, a Lawyer.

Okay Ace, you got me! I'm a bull in a china shop and I have absolutely no idea what is going on. I'm just rampaging thru bustin up everything and you caught me trying to pick up the pieces and camoflage the damage. I didn't unearth some closet secret of yours and you know exactly what the score is. You do not "protest too loudly" but instead, you protest just loud enough to be the self-appointed voice for all against the raging bull who plows thru, horns poised against the innocent. Happy now?

"That is one smart dude"

Apology accepted!

Bish you're right again. It is petty! This is the second time that I allowed myself to get suckered into a petty brawl with a breast-beating nutcase. I'm done with this one!

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AceHoly · 2006-03-05 20:09:04

Garybobs wrote:

Apology accepted!

Now THAT is the funniest thing you've said! No apology offered, GB(s). None needed.

Bish, you've got me all wrong. I'm not squabbling at all. Was simply airing out GB(s) laundry to get the smell off. Interesting that so many of his posts have that problem, when he claims to not intend to make a stink. He loves to take the piss out of other folks, but sure squeals when the tables are turned.

"Breast-beating nutcase?" GB(s) - I'm an admirer of breasts, not a beater. And I've not touted my own horn, merely pointed out that yours was off-key (I'm a strings-instrument man, myself). And if disagreeing with your unique world-view qualifies one as a "nutcase" then you may be the only sane person on your planet.

I seek only to amuse.

Ace

PC elmo · 2006-03-06 07:16:33

Bishop Of Bath & Wells wrote:

Come on people, let's not use this forum for petty squabbles.
Please?
Bish

*sigh*

And for a brief moment, I actually thought the names might just be a coincidence ...

Exorcizing concision -- am I the other "nutcase," Mr.'s Garybob?

And, inching ever so tiptoeing-cartoon-cautious-like back towards the suggested topic , much thanks as always for the two couples and one likely intercourse "suspect" who have appeared since the last such nut-flavored, chest-thumping thanking.

erdna · 2006-03-07 05:03:16

Katherine, "know thyself", Socrates or Plato was already speaking that way 2500 years ago. I think it's the most important thing to discover. Some people never do. You cannot make any good choice in your life without it.

AceHoly · 2006-03-08 13:04:43

PC elmo wrote:

Exorcizing concision -- am I the other "nutcase," Mr.'s Garybob?

That would place me with good company, indeed. Do you think if we do our breast-beating in unison that we could create music? Or, better yet - how about you breast-beat, I'll chest-thump and we'll harmonize!

Sounds like a plan!

I seek only to amuse.

Ace

Garybobs · 2006-03-09 06:47:43

AceHoly wrote:

PC elmo wrote:
Exorcizing concision -- am I the other "nutcase," Mr.'s Garybob?
That would place me with good company, indeed. Do you think if we do our breast-beating in unison that we could create music? Or, better yet - how about you breast-beat, I'll chest-thump and we'll harmonize!
Sounds like a plan!
I seek only to amuse.
Ace

And amuse you do. Now that was your best stand-up routine to date. Oh this is just toooooo much!!!

Feelin like you've found a new friend are ya Ace? I was wrong about you. You ARE gay.

Well that explains a lot about your world. I guess I should tweek my previous comments a bit to suit your...ahem tastes. Plenty of male agonees for your viewing pleasure. Although I doubt that Elmo would appreciate the offer. Somehow, I get the impression that he just doesn't swing that way and prefers a different kind of company. A different sort of harmonizing. It sounds like your world harmonizes to a out-of the closet beat.

Don't be offended if Elmo choses not to reside there. The laws are a bit skewed.

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PC elmo · 2006-03-09 07:09:15

erdna wrote:

Katherine, "know thyself", Socrates or Plato was already speaking that way 2500 years ago. I think it's the most important thing to discover. Some people never do. You cannot make any good choice in your life without it.

...

Well, I don't think anyone was expecting that! Sounds like an interesting conversation, though -- perhaps it was inspired by another thread?

PC elmo · 2006-03-09 07:21:50

AceHoly wrote:

That would place me with good company, indeed. Do you think if we do our breast-beating in unison that we could create music? Or, better yet - how about you breast-beat, I'll chest-thump and we'll harmonize!
Sounds like a plan!

Hey, we could also stomp our feet and beat our brows!

That makes me think of that musical group "STOMP!": They'll beat on anything and make music out of it -- tubing, hub caps, giant drums, even each other. Set them loose in a kitchen or a garage, and you'll have a symphony! Good stuff

... and, for those who insist on singing off key

Garybobs wrote:

Don't be offended if Elmo choses not to reside there. The laws are a bit skewed.

Ah, but that's where neutral good wins the day. (yep, time to get some sleep...)

Actually, you can all have your worlds. I'm happy in my own.

And one more thought -- Ace, you say "I seek only to amuse" enough that you may as well add it to your profile!

AceHoly · 2006-03-09 12:43:00

PC elmo wrote:

Hey, we could also stomp our feet and beat our brows!

I had completely forgotten the old Beaten Brow. Along with the Slapped Knee and Ringing Ear, we could get the band back together!

Thanks for the tip about the signature, Elmo. So shall it be written, so shall it be done. I only wish I could go back in time and retroactively include it.

Lucky for everyone, GaryBob(s) has done the Time Travel for us. Welcome back to the 1980's, when calling a heterosexual man "gay" actually might make him angry instead of make him pity the person who thinks that word has any insulting qualities remaining in the (somewhat) more enlightened decade in which we now live.

I invite you to re-read my opening paragraph about whipping open your intellectual raincoat, GaryBob(s). Rinse. Repeat.

And don't forget the Creme Rinse. Clean hair is SO important!

Ace

Garybobs · 2006-03-09 17:28:50

Denial is more than a river in Egypt. Or so they say

stingray78 · 2006-03-12 06:10:39

Yeah # was hot seeing both male and female sharing a intense moment. Love to see more of that.

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