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PC elmo wrote:Cool.
I am curious as to the effect of diet on ordinary odor. Garlic and onions and such make sense, but are there perhaps some common foods we might not expect to contribute to an offensive aura that do?
PCelmo:
Diet definately does have an affect on B.O. The body's excretory system works through the skin as well as the more commonly understood places. Sweat glands release chemicals in the body that are no longer needed from what is taken in in the form of food and drink. Without getting more technical than neccessary, you sweat out what you take in once the body is done doing whatever it does.
I do know a little about sweat, which is what lead me to ask that question in the first place.
There are actually two types of sweat glands. One is present almost everywhere on the skin, and it helps regulate body temperature. It releases what we normally think of as sweat, which is almost entirely water, but does contain some basic salts and trace amounts of metabolic wastes. The sweat is technically odorless, but the water comes from water inside the body, which I think is what we're talking about here.
The other type of sweat glands is located almost exclusively where the hair grows between the legs and under the arms. Its secretions result in what we normally think of as B.O. Differing from normal sweat only by containing proteins and fats which the body produces, these other secretions are also odorless, but bacteria feast on the proteins and fats these secretions leave behind. It's typically the waste from the bacteria, not the sweat itself, that makes the foul stench of "body odor."
All this is well and good, but we know from experience there's more to it than just that. It would seem some "odor chemicals," from diet, are present in the water in the body, and therefore in most everything with water in it that leaves the body. This ranges from the usually pleasant smell of pineapples to the usually unpleasant scent of onions. In sufficient quantity, garlic can even overpower the pungeant bleach-like smell that usually accompanies male ejaculate. This understanding also explains the persistance of the "loud curry flavor," if you will, that Ms 0160's hubby picked up at his now-forbidden Indian place.
So naturally, with all this in mind, I wonder whether there are foods whose effect on odor -- good or bad -- we might not expect. Meat is a good example. We might smell like whatever flavoring was in the meat, from honey to spices, or we might be less likely to smell like the vegetables we eat. Or, it might not have any effect at all. It could depend on the type of meat. Are there some spices that get around our bodily fluids more than others? What about spending a lot of time in the sun? Other vitamins, or minerals? Alcohol? I don't know about anyone else, but I've sometimes detected from my urine scents I would not have guessed based on what I ate/drank. Other times, it disturbingly smells exactly like what I ate/drank.
Anyway, in my experience, vegetarians tend to know obscure things about how foods affect the body, or at least they usually know someone who knows a lot of stuff. I've heard there are plants that can alter how we taste foods, making lemons seem sweet kind of thing, so it makes sense there could be something about odor.
I try to be quick, really, but this is all very interesting. Probably better, though, to wait or to let my expression run its course, than to over-abbreviate and leave folks wondering what the hell I'm talking about. I think a little thicker skin wouldn't hurt, either....
"There is always room for something more."
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... so I wholeheartedly affirm that I don't care if others here don't get what I'm saying, or if they get it entirely and don't like me anyway. I guess I just try to write the kinds of posts I enjoy reading from other people. I can't make anyone else stick to that standard, but it'd be nice.
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You have demonstrated precisely the sort of sane and cogent maturity that one would expect to find among rational adults.
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I hope that there will be many more like you here in the future.
And I agree with that 100%.
Thanks for joining in, Ms 0160!
"There is always room for something more."
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Elmo:
After the few bouts I've had here, I concur with you wholeheartedly!!! I don't care either. I always feel better when I stand on my own two feet!!!
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Way cool, friends. Also, fascinating stuff about smells! ...though I thought it was more the by-products created from breaking down foods that was excreted in those special sweat glands. If I eat bacon-flavored crackers, not cracker bits themselves but decomposed partially hydrogenated soybean oil comes out.
This would explain perhaps why sometimes what you smell like and what your food smelled like are vastly different. Also, of course, we're smelling the bacteria poo from the feast of these excretions anyway, so this is all rather moot.
So many of life's pains could be avoided if we remembered that nothing is permanent, not everyone will instantly love us with all our faults, and we're made happier primarily by helping others.
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...oh yeah and more orgasms help (at least in the short run) !
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Since we are talking about odors in this thread, anyone ever notice how bad sweaty boobs smell? Women with large breasts tend to sweat underneath and I think the boxed-in moisture w/no ventilation just adds to the problem.
Sweaty ( 0 )( 0 )
Now there's another stinky problem!
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Garybob, you said you went in Europe. There are many countries in Europe (about 25) and they have huge differences. The fashions and trends in the European states of the north are completely different than those of the south just like Canada is certainly very different than Mexico or New England with respect to Arizona. Are you with me now? You have to know that the first women in occident to have shaved their pubes are the scandinavians especially the swedish women and they did it way before the north americans did. On the other hand the fashion with armpit shaving for women seems to come from north america and is now going everywhere. I believe that porn movies contributed to that fashion and the G-string as well. Anyway, natural or shaved like babies, women are all beautiful. With hair or hairless, what is important is hygiene. Fresh body odors are natural. Too much cheap perfume is a turn off for me. And don't forget the pheromones, those are unnoticed odors which play an important role for you (or other) to decide if you like sexually somebody without you knowing it. That's why the first move animals do is smelling. Apparently the human beings lost that skill about being aware of pheromones but they are still there. Removing the pheromones from your body by washing it too much is removing your sexual signals for girls for instance. I am sure you don't want that. Would you remove all your signals from your car? Would you remove your low pitch voice which indicates you are a male?
Ms BA#160 or Valerie (AW) or Aurorya (ISM) please don't remove one single hair on your body. Your body is magnificent and I love your classy look especially when you give us a lesson on sex in the library (BA OV0039). A real school teacher look. What a beautiful fantasy. A sexy school teacher who knows a lot on sex.
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Erdna:
I'm not knocking you for your taste in women! Why are you knockin mine? So you like body hair and the "fresh" B.O. that accompanies it. Whatever man. Do yo thang wit'cho baaad self. But that's just not my bag. Again, I'm not all in your face about it so I don't see why you have to jump on me. I just don't like women with body hair, okay?.
As to Europe, listen european women are great. Some are just delicious. But as far as I'm concerned, I don't care how great they look, how big and full the breasts, how shapely the hips or curvy the bottom. If I see armpit hair, or hairy legs or a bush sprouting out of the panties, all I can think of is fleas, ticks, and all manner of corruption. I'm going the other way man. That's just the way I do my business. Why that concerns you is a mystery to me.
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I never meant to give you a hard time Garybob. I was more trying to encourage women who choose to keep their hair where they want it. However, you have to be cautious when making generalization (Europe). Generalization can easily be erroneous. Thanks for your frankness about not liking hair at some place. It's what you feel. But do you have the same "flea" problem when you see a cat or a dog or a horse or a fur coat? What do you think about the men shaving their pubes and scrotum and say this is cleaner for the girl when performing oral sex? I think this is a trend, just a trend but when a trend becomes like the new bible and people start to believe in it, we have a big problem. We should use our common sense and not become slave of those trends. But Garybob, we all have our sensitivity. Personnally (keep that for you) I don't like too much piercing especially on the tongue or on the lips, nose or above the eyes, well in the face except the ears. Just a bit is OK but too much is not cute for me. On the navel and on the clit hood skin, it's OK provided the girl keeps her sensations. I like it less on the nippple but I can stand it. Skaking your hand, for me you are an important contributor on this forum.
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Erdna, no problems here dude and thanks for the words of encouragement.
As a matter of fact, yes I do have a problem with fury animals in general and dogs in particular. I am in the very smal minority of people who happens to hate dogs. I see people walking around my neighborhood with their dogs and their little baggies, picking up poop of the ground and I get completely digusted. I mean, who's got whom trained, huh? What gets me most is that some of these people just carry the baggies for show. They don't actually pick up the mess. Now that's okay, except when their dog(s) piss and shit on my fu-king lawn. I mean, DAYUM!!! I don't mess with their property. Why do they have to mess with my shit, huh? It just pisses me off. I can't even think about dogs when I'm eating without feeling like puking my guts out. The damned smell.
Anyway, dogs are not relevant to this forum....I hope! So, no worries between me and you. I obviously misread your post and I'm not to big to apologize.
BTW: I may have an aversion to furry women because of the dog issue. And as to men who shave the scrotum area....I ain't touchin that one.
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If I see armpit hair, or hairy legs or a bush sprouting out of the panties, all I can think of is fleas, ticks, and all manner of corruption. I'm going the other way man. That's just the way I do my business. Why that concerns you is a mystery to me.
So you don't like hairy women, huh Garybob? Then let me paint you a little scenario.
Halle Berry, one of the most beautiful women in the world. Lying on your bed. Naked. With a rose between her teeth, beckoning you towards her. It's only as you get closer that you notice her underarm hair and furry legs.
Are you honestly saying, as a red-blooded male, that you'd simply walk out the room? Get outta here!
Bish
"Today is the beginning of whatever comes next. Stop running, confront, and conquer!"
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OK Garybob, I got it. You are a honest man.
I wonder what the girls think about french kissing a guy with a mustache or better yet, a mustache and a beard. Girls, waiting for your comments.
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I've heard that facial hair can add some excitement to oral sex. ... but I guess that only works if the woman is the recipient!
"There is always room for something more."
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I've heard that facial hair can add some excitement to oral sex. ... but I guess that only works if the woman is the recipient!
I like facial hair- it adds to the sensation of cunnilingus! Espcially nice when my bush gets caught up with my partners face bush !
On the body hair thread- l love mine and have recently committed to growing it all out.
Garybob Im afraid to say this includes snail trail, toe and foot hair and nipple hair-
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Bishop:
strange as it may seem to you, the answer is a resounding YES!!! Halle Barry is gorgeous. But she's also likely living the hollywood lifestyle, if you know what I mean. Trust me when I say, I don't want what she's got! I learned and long time ago that a pretty package can explode in your face. I've learned to look beyond the outside, not that outward apperances aren't pleasant to look at. But there's far more to a woman than ( 0 )( 0 ) and \i/ if you get my drift. So again, yes I would walk right the hell out. Like I said, dat's jes da way I does my business, you feel me?
Ruby, go you earth woman. I love your submissions but given the unlikely chance to be with you and all your hairy glory, I'd respectfully take a pass. That's not an indictment against you personally. I just couldn't get beyond the critter phobia thang.
I mentioned before, I was once with a very hairy woman. Took every last bit of mental strength I could muster to keep my johnson in the game. It actually went on strike and I had to give up. Dayum!!! I was horny as hell too but that bush just screwed up my game. Think I went home and took the longest, hottest shower of my life.
Needless to say, that was the end of that one. Good thing too. She turned out to be a real skank-rat-yeast-infected-spaghetti-hoop dingbat. To this day I need a shot of J.D. every time I even think of her. Sheesh!!!
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PC elmo wrote:I've heard that facial hair can add some excitement to oral sex. ... but I guess that only works if the woman is the recipient!
I like facial hair- it adds to the sensation of cunnilingus! Espcially nice when my bush gets caught up with my partners face bush !
On the body hair thread- l love mine and have recently committed to growing it all out.
Garybob Im afraid to say this includes snail trail, toe and foot hair and nipple hair-
Yummy -
Mustached man here with a little goatee thing going. Perfect for tickling all the most sensitive areas!
I'm afraid I find the idea of a "treasure" trail and some body hair - quite the turn on. Not really an american thing - doesnt get accepted well here but when I see a woman who is far more "Natural", Oh dear - so much a turn on!
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I to am one who finds underarm hair in woman attractive to the point of being sexy. I beleive that's one of its (underarm hair) functions. As for it being unclean or dirty, I can't think of a reason why it would be any different from head hair or or male pubic hair. Its been so villainizied that mose people just beleive without thought thats it real bad. Conditioning works, we can all be told a lie so long that we beleive it. Anyway I like it, and I beleive that woman who keep it are more open minded than the rest who follow the line.
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Conditioning works....
You are so damn right, my friend! Ever read the book "Brave new world" (Aldous Huxley)? It's worth to read (and understand!)...
L'éssentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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YES I have, and I totally agree with you! Also have you read the Joy Of Sex? There is a section regarding the armpit. They say that it should not be shaved! And I agree.
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Also have you read the Joy Of Sex? There is a section regarding the armpit. They say that it should not be shaved! And I agree.
No, not yet. But I agree that all body hair is natural and should stay at place. I cannot understand, how the advertising industry managed to convince people that armpit hair is "ugly, dirty or unnatural".
I even do not cut the hair on my ears (and believe me, it's LONG!)... lol
There's a saying: hair is the antenna to god. I believe in that!
L'éssentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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0160 or Valerie, congratulations for your 2 relatively recent and excellent videos with AW, the video where your are alone and the other one with Jade. As I said already you are super sexy with your classic look. I like it a lot. Stay as you are. People who want to look like a baby can shave themselves if they want.
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People who want to look like a baby can shave themselves if they want.
LOL!!! Very funny, Erdna!
Bish
"Today is the beginning of whatever comes next. Stop running, confront, and conquer!"
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#2728 - some lovely underarm hair.
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