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Hm. Well... If porn means that mainstreem thing, yes. What we have here is something else.
Although I remember Richard in an interview saying something like "This is definitely porn. The hardest kind."
And can I perfectly see his point. I could perhaps put it like this: There's no nudity which can surpass the exposition of the soul.
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So, is this new 'FBA' site going to be a part of the 'BA' site with this extra 'FBA' feature added as an extra, if you pay more for the extra or is it going to be a whole new sack of potatoes. I know ISM has a similar syatem, where you have the option to pay for whatever features you are interested in.
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So, is this new 'FBA' site going to be a part of the 'BA' site with this extra 'FBA' feature added as an extra, if you pay more for the extra or is it going to be a whole new sack of potatoes. I know ISM has a similar syatem, where you have the option to pay for whatever features you are interested in.
Going from what Richard has said so far, it sounds very much like it's going to be an entirely seperate enterprise.
Bish
"Today is the beginning of whatever comes next. Stop running, confront, and conquer!"
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Nowaysis wrote:The cynical part of me can't help but notice that this is an excellent marketing method. Of course, we don't yet know anything about payment plans for the new site, but assuming it's completely stand alone from BA, it's almost an act of evil genius to first whet our apetites with an FBA here, and then have us pay for yet another full site to get more of it. Hoping that we will continue to pay for regular agony as well, of course.
This is of course completely disregarding the possibility that anyone in the age of the Internet actually has any integrity left, and will stand by their values and beliefs, in this case the firm belief that FBA does not beling here at BA.
Ha! We're not that well organised or that fiendish. We're just making it up as we go along.
I'm not sure if is meant to calm me, or worry me even more... O.o
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Should be interesting, I'll sign up for sure.
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Sure, I'd like FBA. Heck, I'd like to arrange to meet some of the agonees. But we don't always get what we think we'd like, and that's probably a good thing. Ironically, I find some of the agonees to be far less interesting in "confessions" than in their agonies; our imaginations are unleashed by this format, whetted by the small dose of realities that we see.
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Sure, I'd like FBA. Heck, I'd like to arrange to meet some of the agonees. But we don't always get what we think we'd like, and that's probably a good thing. Ironically, I find some of the agonees to be far less interesting in "confessions" than in their agonies; our imaginations are unleashed by this format, whetted by the small dose of realities that we see.
I've read similar thoughts about joining AW or ISM and seeing some of the same contributors with nudity. I understand completely, but I've also experienced that sort of thing with the confessions here, only the other way around: after seeing a confession, I sometimes go back and re-watch that contributor's agony. I usually find it more personal -- even if not more erotic -- than before, and several times the exact moment orgasm takes over -- usually an important feature for my tastes -- seems more clear than when I first viewed it, as well as her enjoyment of it. Sure, like most of us, a significant number of agony vids don't do much for me, but I actually think I've seen that number diminish with the confessions and overkills.
Whether we appreciate the original contributions more or less, the confessions can change the way we see them, that's for sure.
"There is always room for something more."
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I will unfortunately probably have to choose as well. I'm a poor student, and can't really afford subscriptions to lots of different sites. I had to think long and hard about whether I could afford just BA, and this site is still in my opinion pretty cheap as internet "porn" sites go.
Sorry to trample on my own thoughts here, but I think value of the site as a whole is just as important as value of individual contributions.
Like many members here, this is the first website I've ever joined, and presently the only one that gets any of my hard-earned and much in-demand money. A significant part of my decision to join was and continues to be the fact that I believe in what is going on here. I want to support it, and, conveniently enough, that same financial act allows me to enjoy its contents.
Also a poor student, it'll take lots of planning to turn one into four and to keep it that way. I'm glad it'll be till February at least for BA's FBA spin-off -- that gives me two more months to save up for my Christmas present to myself! It's hard to do, but it's that much more important when we do -- and I believe it's worth it.
If I could help research or program or something I probably would, but as no other form of support is immediately available to me, memberships will have to do. Maybe someday we poor students can put together a thread about the things we came up with to make money for our BA / ??? / AW / ISM memberships !
"There is always room for something more."
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Hello Folks,
I'm only a newbie so be gentle... I like the concept of BA, the agonies and the models are exquisite but I would not mind seeing a bit more of their body. Now, I dont mean seeing them fully naked or actually or their 'sex'; but like model 394 and some others in various other positions not just under the camera.
I enjoy looking at the contour of the models body especially the bosums and/or more of the neck, chest and clevage (as most of the time it does get redder).
I have enjoyed all the agonies i have seen but 2 weeks into my membership, I think I might get a bit bored after a month just watching faces.
I ealso enjoy seeing them lie down and getting prepared and the cooling period is also fun. Maybe we can be allowed to see the models that dont mind showing their full body whilst masturbating or when getting down or off.
I think the powers that be should encourage more models to try all sorts of positions not just lying down.; there has been a few good ones, standing up, on the couch, face down and in the bath.
I enjoy this site but dont know if I will still be a member after 3 months - I get bored easily.
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I should include 433 and 429 (sample) in the clevage showing agonies. i am sure ther are others but I like that sort mini exposure. The full body in the overkill is a massive turn-on. A girl with her hand in her panties is erotic, not necessarily porno.
We have to accept that a lot of us get off on watching the agonies, so there is an element of porno involve. It is not nudity but it not exactly clean wholesome family fun, is it?
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Thanks chay2006 to speak straight forward. What you mention about full body agony has been discussed a lot and we are all waiting.
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I have to say that the FBA is what got me to join BA to begin with. I found it extraordinarily erotic and I really did think that there would be similar thinngs in the Overkill area. While I have enjoyed the BAs that I have watched I do find it a bit redundant to a degree.
I am loathe to speak for anyone but myself so I won't. The BAs that I tend to enjoy more are the ones were you can get a better sense of what the young ladies are doing, where you see their arms moving and changing speeds and their responses to that movement and yes a view of their breasts moving along with the motion. The ones that I find most erotic are the ones were you can hear , ever so slightly the sounds of what is going on below the waist. Whether it is a vibrator or fingers being used, you can hear how wet and excited the young lady is and the puts me over the top everytime.
I will come back in Feb to check on the new site that will include the FBAs, but I have decided not to renew my membership at this time. I simply crave more stimuli and that does not have to be nudity, but a tease of a fleeting glimpse here and there in context to what is going on in the moment is very erotic. If one of the BAs during their peak gyrates or thrusts enough where a glimpse of a breast is flashed or the curve of a buttock is seen, in my opinion should not be cropped out so carefully. I feel that it adds to the moment. I also like to get a glimpse of what they are wearing. It is very nice to hear some of them removing their pants and panties.
Again this is just my opinion and it not meant to disrespect the sight as it is. After all I did put my money down in the first place and I would not have done so if it were not worth it. Good Luck to Richard and Lauren. I will keep an eye out for the FBAs, hopefully there will be an announcement of some sort on the main page.
Devon
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Devon, not much chance of those fleeting glimpses here. The new site is being marketed well here among the members and many of us are salivating. As to this site, don't you appreciate the "art" enough to hang around until the new site is up and running? LMAO
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I agree with everything you say, Devonite. It might sound like some of us are not appreciative of the concept but that is not the case.
Th arty argument is fine and justified, but that is up to a point. The majority of people that subscribe not only enjoy the art/agonies but get off on them... I wont go on but a bit more stimulus, and more variety is not being too subversive, I hope.
I am happy to have subscribed, I came here from Ishotmyself; I probably like a bit of nudity but the picture in Ishot also tells a story and most are artistics, as well. For the record, I dont get off on them but have a huge store of the best pictures.
I have devoured these agonies within the first week of joining; I am going through them again but I dont know if I will continue to subscribe like my friend above.
I dont want a abby winters but just a bit more to take in. With the very close head shots and 'straight into it agonies', one cant help thinking that some of them are faking it.
Watching the rise of the bosoms, part the hands, the sounds, varied positions, taking their clothes off, adjusting into position and sometime cleavages and lingere just enhances the already fantastic experience.
To finish, I am not looking for out and out full body or complete nude, nipple shot, pubes and certainly dont want to see the anatomy of the pussy but if the girls are eady to show just a bit more, why not?
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You know, I can't help but think that many of those who SAY they don't want to see full nudity on this, in fact DO want to see more. Perhaps that is the spice that keeps the imagination working here.
And Chay.....did you say pussy?
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You know, I can't help but think that many of those who SAY they don't want to see full nudity on this, in fact DO want to see more. Perhaps that is the spice that keeps the imagination working here.
Oh yes, I do want to see more nudity -- just not HERE, on this site. And I think my imagination is working just fine, wherever it is.
"There is always room for something more."
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He did! He did say pussy!
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I tried not to say the 'p' word but I just wanted to make it very very clear where I might like to draw the line.
Dont women have pussies or is it not arty enough to mention it? I debated against using: privates, snatch and sex but pussy is not a dirty word.
I will prefer to see more of them caressing themselves especially touching the boobs (oops, maybe another faux pas). I know it is each to themselves, but in my limited experience, a large number do tend to squeeze their boobs before, during and especially after.
The agonies that I have seen the models touching themselves in others parts (bodies) except their sex (?) have added to my pleasure and believability. The vibrators induced are fine but not quite...
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Chay, if pussy is not a dirty word, then tell me, would you say that word in the presence of your mother? Your father? The president?
I think there are plenty of ways one can identify that part of the female anatomy without being vile. Taco, squeeze-box, love-cave, vagina, pink vise....you know, something lovely like that!
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I would join again if more full body agonies were shown. I absoluetly DO NOT want nudity. A woman doens't have to be nude to masturbate, especially if she enjoys a vibrator. I just enjoy seeing the body movements that occur both during stimulation and espacially during orgasm. In fact, I'd rather see a woman fully dressed having an orgasm than one that is naked. Something about the unexpected, I guess. Wierd, huh?
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Gary? How old are you? And are u serious?
I would not be talking about pussies with my parents. This is an adult 'sexual' forum. The suggestions that you came up with are laughable and some are a bit childish. Vagina is probably the best but a lot of people will probably say pussy before vagina. Vagina is the right term (biologically) but it is rather loud, not vulgar but just damn loud.
Anyway, I will not be talking about the female private parts for a while; so you can rest easy.
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Chay! I'm old enough to buy membership to this site! And no, I was not being serious!
And you may discuss anything you please. That is your right! And I always rest quite comfortably. But thanx anyway.
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Devon, not much chance of those fleeting glimpses here. The new site is being marketed well here among the members and many of us are salivating. As to this site, don't you appreciate the "art" enough to hang around until the new site is up and running? LMAO
Marketed? What less could we do other than keep it a secret???
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My vote is for full body no nudity
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I think there are plenty of ways one can identify that part of the female anatomy without being vile. Taco, squeeze-box, love-cave, vagina, pink vise....you know, something lovely like that!
There was a discussion over on ISM's forum about this very thing. The poll that was conducted produced a surprising, or maybe not so surprising, results. Most women who responded prefered it to be called a 'pussy.'
Last edited by Tellin (2005-12-29 16:55:55)
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