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There is definately a calling for this! Being able to enjoy the 'full body experience' and maintain the erotisism of expression and non-nudity is a winning combination. This could be placed in a seperate section and those who prefer the 'head and shoulders look' need not visit that part. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for not making us wait any longer; that was wonderful!
A very pretty young lady; I wish she would have done a regular agony, too, so we could see more of her face.
On the other hand, I really enjoyed seeing all of her body. "No mystery?" Maybe not, but that's only part of the appeal of the regular agonies for me. I liked seeing that she tended to raise one leg, and roll towards her right side, and touch her right breast now and then; I didn't find this detracted from the overall experience. Somewhat expectedly, you could see her hand moving much faster as she approached her peak; I noticed it, but I didn't think it detracted from the overall experience. OK, so we could see how she got herself there; no big deal.
That is, "no big deal" in that it was still a wonderful glimpse into a Beautiful Agony.
The "first and last?" So be it. Thank you again.
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Surprised,... strong vibrations. Everything perfect! awesome! An erotic lady. What can i say more? Thanks a lot for that wonderful unique contribution.
Long live the hedonism, –enjoy your sexual pleasure!
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Thanks for putting this one up. She is well worth the wait.
Head and neck shots are great and should be the main focus of BA. If you get them, there is room for a few more like OV86. Seeing her entire body tremble was great.
But you make the rules. Once and never again it is.
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My vote is for an absolute, definite, NO more.
The girl herself was great! Had this been a regular Agony, it no doubt would have been among my favourites. This clip, though, had very little of BA about it. It left very, very little to the imagination (which is one of the biggest attractions that BA has in my book), while still covering up the female form, which is really the only reason that I'd look at a clip like this from another site. I found the full body "Intimate Moments" clips on AbbyWinters MUCH more entertaining for example.
Sorry to all you people who loved it, but I'm really hoping that Lauren sticks to her guns on this one and we don't see a return of this type of clip.
Chris
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Overkill #86 is certainly beautiful to watch. I love seeing a woman give herself more than one orgasm... very erotic.
I can understand the controversy about this submission, however. Beautiful Agony is unique and I'd hate to see become "just another porn site." Yet I think that even with Overkill #86 it is still far from that. Considering it's non-standard format, OV0086 seems like a reasonable overkill to me (from what I've seen so far, anyway). I applaud Lauren and Richard for posting it, and I understand their policy for not posting others like it.
As an aside, while watching OV0086 I found myself spending a lot of time looking at the expression on the agonee's face. It was fun to watch her hand moving, the way she fondled her breast, and the shaking and quivering of her body... but it was the face that really did it for me (and her words/sounds as well). Has she also provided a conventional submission? If so I'd love to see it!
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I'm sorry but the site owners, and myself are going to have to agree to disagree.
I think the latest overkill was perfectly suited for this site. It was tastefully done, there was no nudity. Even though you could see the movements of her hands, your imagination was still peaked!
Although the camera was not centered on her face, you could see the reaction in it.
The best thing was seeing part of what led up to her agony, THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
The purist will bemoan that the site should remain a focus of the face, I will say thats fine. I also will say that there is more than enough room in the overkill section for additional posts of this quality. If you wish to focus on the face, then its simple, don't watch the full body vid. Done and Done.
Lauren and Richard have made up their minds, so be it.
I wonder if a simple poll of members, would show that theres more interest in FBA (Full Body Agony), then they be aware of?
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I personally think overkill #86 was GREAT! I really appreciated being able to watch the tiny movements and twitches of her body as well as the expressions on her face. No need for nudity, but this added an extra dimension. Thanks
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I wish she would have done a regular agony, too, so we could see more of her face.
Has she also provided a conventional submission? If so I'd love to see it!
I'm 99.9% sure that #0348 is the very same girl.
PS I adored OV0086 as well, it would have been absolutely criminal for Lauren & Richard not to share this amazing clip with us...........after all, isn't that why Overkill exists in the first place?
Bish
"Today is the beginning of whatever comes next. Stop running, confront, and conquer!"
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"yes, yes, yes" Bish, i am sure it's 0348.
Long live the hedonism, –enjoy your sexual pleasure!
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Real sex often shine out on film as real fire or real rain not hot, not wet, and theres an obvious challenge to the sexually expressive parts of our body (e.g. hands, feet and face) mostly being located distant to our erotically rather inexpressive sexual organs.
With a shot, as with some of the IM shots, from the foot end up, the face become almost invisible. A silent agonee placing her one microphone along with the camera would easily drown the sound of his/her breath in foreground noise.
You need an "evident language" like the perfect OV86's to suit a shot like that. Her moving and twitching her body end legs and her work of her right hand makes me bless the presence of the skirt, (a touch of genious). I sure miss a close up of her face, though.
On the other hand, my nr 1 mystery goddess, the absolutely fantastic #14/OV69 in a shot from a distance seem like a painful loss to me. A foot end only shot of her seems an completely disastrous idea.
Richard/Lauren, whatever you choose to do, avoid the porn-angles like the plague.
... neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
for the swine will slide - cast ye straw or sawdust!!
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Lauren and Richard have made up their minds, so be it.
I wonder if a simple poll of members, would show that theres more interest in FBA (Full Body Agony), then they be aware of?
I am quite sure, they are aware, that some members interest in FBA is there. But there are also some members who wish NO FBA clips. And finally there's the site-philosophy to show the FACE as the most erotic part of the human body.
Alltogether, they made their decision, and I respect (and welcome) this decision!
It's not always the majority who decides (for gods sake!)
L'éssentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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I loved it. Very erotic. And I have to say it appealed to me more than her previous agony(348.)
I think there's room on this site for FBAs if they're submitted. It's still outside the realm of mainstream porn. As Bish asked, isn't that what Overkill is for? The content of BA will still focus on the face and purists can choose not to watch what's not to their liking in the Overkill section.
Now, bonus points for the first man who can do a FBA and stay within BA's guidelines.
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asm2agny wrote:I wish she would have done a regular agony, too, so we could see more of her face.
ptr45 wrote:Has she also provided a conventional submission? If so I'd love to see it!
I'm 99.9% sure that #0348 is the very same girl.
PS I adored OV0086 as well, it would have been absolutely criminal for Lauren & Richard not to share this amazing clip with us...........after all, isn't that why Overkill exists in the first place?
Bish
I agree that she is #0348 - Identical manner in which she moans: "Oh yes, oh yes" just before her Petite Mort.
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I agree that she is #0348 - Identical manner in which she moans: "Oh yes, oh yes" just before her Petite Mort.
I just compared 0V0086 with Ms 348 and yes, it's the same person. Not only are her mannerisms the same, but her eyebrows are quite distinctive and the shape of her face is a match. In both agonies she's lovely. Ms 348... thanks for sharing!
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Kdogg2 wrote:Lauren and Richard have made up their minds, so be it.
I wonder if a simple poll of members, would show that theres more interest in FBA (Full Body Agony), then they be aware of?
I am quite sure, they are aware, that some members interest in FBA is there. But there are also some members who wish NO FBA clips. And finally there's the site-philosophy to show the FACE as the most erotic part of the human body.
Alltogether, they made their decision, and I respect (and welcome) this decision!
It's not always the majority who decides (for gods sake!)
Thats all fine and dandy. I agree that is a good thing that the majority doesn't all ways make the rules, but sometimes a majority decision isn't unwelcome.
I never challanged their decision, I just didn't agree with it. Its their site and they run it how they wish.
For the purist, if you wish only to view the face and leave everything else a mystery, more power to you. I have no trouble with the current setup, but I am not bothered by a video where the mystique is broken.
Eroticism is what you make of it. Everyone has their own opinion.
How hard is it to avoid something that doesn't have to be thrown in your face. A simple section like the overkill is all it takes. The name would spell it out, and those not interested in its contents avoid it.
The above is not a hint or suggestion, just a simple statement.
I've never understood why people complain so much about things readily in their power to control. If you don't like a certain book, don't read it. Tv show, don't watch it. So on and so on.
These are just my opinions, and you know people say about those and A-Holes.
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I liked the full body submission, she was great and I enjoyed watching it. But the thing I like most about BA is not the mystery others spoke of, but it seems so much more intense to have a face-only view. I feel like I am getting more of a glimpse into something personal and intimate when I am focusing on the face. If our opinions matter, then I'd not be opposed to an occassional overkill like this, but hope the main focus of the site remains on the face.
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Thanks to everyone who pointed out that #348 is the young lady featured in the latest Overkill.
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After reading so many of these still unsatisfied "moremoremore" voices (overkill comments), i hope BA keeps that wonderful unique contri nonrecurring, turn back and keep the line of real face only beautiful agonys. For more Body view i recommend the Abbywinter's page.
Long live the hedonism, –enjoy your sexual pleasure!
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After reading so many of these still unsatisfied "moremoremore" voices (overkill comments), i hope BA keeps that wonderful unique contri nonrecurring, turn back and keep the line of real face only beautiful agonys. For more Body view i recommend the Abbywinter's page.
I agree to uri. I hate greed...
L'éssentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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Well, I'll weigh in and say that I also like the full-body/clothed agony. It's a nice rarity on this site...variety is the spice of life after all.
OK. Having acknowledged that BA is going to remain a "face only" site (i.e., that any discussion isn't going to change this site but might just be an interesting discussion), here is something I've been pondering for a while. It may stir up some comment (but isn't that why there's a forum?):
Positive aspects of "face only":
1. Provides some "mystery" for the imagination to fill in;
2. Emphasizes the individuality of each agonee (parts is parts, but the face is the mirror of the soul)
Negative aspects of "face only":
1. The imagination may not fill in reality, thus turning the agonees into "sex objects" that inspire fantasy rather than being viewed as they really are and as they really experienced the act.;
2. There are, after all, some basic "classes" of facial expressions, so even with faces there isn't infinite variety.
What do you think?
SB
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parts is parts, but the face is the mirror of the soul
First of all, no two bodies are alike. There is an infinite variety of breasts and cocks, and one can identify one's lover quite easily by those alone.
Secondly, you seem to think that the soul resides in the body like the driver in a car. I'd say that the soul and the body are one indivisible whole.
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That was very, very good! See, no nudity, but still very erotic. Great agony (twice) too.
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uri wrote:
After reading so many of these still unsatisfied "moremoremore" voices (overkill comments), i hope BA keeps that wonderful unique contri nonrecurring, turn back and keep the line of real face only beautiful agonys. For more Body view i recommend the Abbywinter's page.
I agree to uri. I hate greed...
Well excuse me for having a opinion that doesn't mesh with the rest. I'm sorry, because I live in america, i'm used to free thought.
What the hell was I thinking!?!
So sorry won't happen again.
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2. There are, after all, some basic "classes" of facial expressions, so even with faces there isn't infinite variety.
Oh, if only I could find more of the "basic class" I'm after...
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