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Roe · 2005-09-16 05:58:45

I know all you guys say that you don't watch the guys videos (I personally think that you probably do, but may not admit it). Most of the people who post on here are guys. You post over and over about the sweetest agony and they are all girls. What about the guys?? Who's the best guy agony?

I can't stop watching 331 over and over again. He's worth the whole membership fee. He's hands-free satisfication.

~Roe

pinguin · 2005-09-16 08:34:11

Roe wrote:

I know all you guys say that you don't watch the guys videos (I personally think that you probably do, but may not admit it).

The only ones I watch are those whos partners also submitted to BA. And the only reason I check them out is to see if the lady in question is also somehow involved. A single man having fun on his own just doesn't do it for me.

al · 2005-09-16 14:09:54

It's not machoism to state I'm not interested in male performances. I'm just not. That's all.

Roe · 2005-09-17 08:24:33

wow, well you guys make it SO much fun for girls to participate in the forum then. Cause really all you're interested in is having guy talk.

al · 2005-09-17 09:13:19

Sure, we are boring, narrow-minded, selfish, mean bastards. How dare we, right?

Pugget · 2005-09-17 12:03:08

Well, so as someone who both happens to be male and not a dick (why be so mean Al?), I also must report I don't watch them. I thought about grabbing one from time to time, out of curiosity, but just don't ever seem to do it. I don't know; I know how I feel when I orgasim. I *don't* know how a woman feels (or what she thinks), so I find those videos to be the ineresting ones.

Cheers!

salsasalsa · 2005-09-17 12:37:05

Roe wrote:

wow, well you guys make it SO much fun for girls to participate in the forum then. Cause really all you're interested in is having guy talk.

Nice to see such a tolerant and open-minded person...

al · 2005-09-17 14:17:20

Pugget wrote:

...I thought about grabbing one from time to time, out of curiosity, but just don't ever seem to do it. ...

Yeah, I even managed to look into one.
331 got several comments, and the picture seems kinda intense, so I thought what can happen...
Well, it wasn't a pleasant experience. I kinda watched it through my fingers, hehe...
My belief is that for a straight person it's not unhealthy to feel a spontaneus revulsion in cases like this.
When in the place of the anticipated sexual excitement you find a member of your same sex.
In my opinion, this is not about openness, or liberal mentality, or whatever. It's genetic.
Whether or not we should discuss negative aspects like this in the forum is yet another issue.

al · 2005-09-17 14:38:48

Pugget wrote:

why be so mean Al?

Oh, I think I just wanted to quickly illustrate how surreal this sentiment was.
Like insulting dogs, because they can't climb a tree. Or something like that.

Roe · 2005-09-17 18:21:54

Really, my point was that everyone's experience on the site (guys and girls) is such an extremely beautiful thing. I suppose it doesn't matter if the viewer chooses to discriminate against sex, cause either way both sexes are beautiful.

Seeing the responses to my post, I suppose I don't quite fit in here.

al · 2005-09-17 18:41:26

C'mon, nobody fits in here. We just throw in some words and try to figure out who means what...

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tithonus · 2005-09-17 18:52:11

Well, so far I haven't downloaded any of the guys, because I'm on dialup and I have to pick and choose carefully... so, pardon the expression, I go for the sweetest plums first. But I have no objection in principle to the idea of watching one of the men; I'm curious as to how much his extertions would resemble my own. But it's a kind of idle curiousity, rather than the... frankly sexual curiousity that I have about the women.

alaclark · 2005-09-17 21:24:12

tithonus (and others like you), I feel similarly. If I seek out any male Agonies, it'll be those kindly pointed out by others as likely having Women In The Background. Oh, Roe, by the way, I hope you'll have found by now some of the female Forum correspondents who, as ever, make the whole thing worthwhile.

Grabbing the opportunity, though, while we seem to have a group of chaps together, I want to float an ancient question -- could be called the Tiresias question: which sex do you honestly think derives the greatest, most intense, pleasure from sexual activity?

My own reply, from the second half of my lifetime at least, is, without a shadow of doubt, the female sex. If one's lucky enough to encounter the right members of it, that is (and clearly a lot of them are agonees on this site, and Forum writers too).
Females have that unique little organ honed by evolution for the sake of pleasure alone, while our admirable male organs have to double for other purposes. [Admittedly, a regrettable number of women appear (maybe APPEAR is all it is, though) to ignore that priceless bonus from Mother Nature -- but that's another story.]

This leads on, for me, to the realization that unless the pleasure is mutual it is really pretty much pointless. And, beyond that, to the realization that my partner's pleasure is probably THE most rewarding aspect I've ever carried away from any sexual encounter. Any of you feel similarly?

PC elmo · 2005-09-18 06:58:34

salsasalsa wrote:

Roe wrote:
wow, well you guys make it SO much fun for girls to participate in the forum then. Cause really all you're interested in is having guy talk.
Nice to see such a tolerant and open-minded person...

Roe wrote:

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Seeing the responses to my post, I suppose I don't quite fit in here.

... I'm not really sure what to say to that ... but obviously, that won't stop me from trying!

I disagree, but you seem to have made up your mind, Roe. You really are welcome here.

What I disagree about is that you don't fit in, and also that we somewhat regular male participants are only interested in having guy talk. I don't have a basis for commenting on how fun it is for girls to participate in the forum, though.

Perhaps it would be helpful (and informative) for some of our other female members to offer their thoughts here, on their own experiences with the forum, as well as the whole "fitting in" thing.
(hint, hint!)

Jo · 2005-09-18 10:14:09

Roe wrote:

wow, well you guys make it SO much fun for girls to participate in the forum then. Cause really all you're interested in is having guy talk.

Roe, I am male. And I absolutely agree to you. Its also SO much fun for me to participate here... I (like you) hate the machism taking part here. I wished, more women would take part in this forum to establish a fair and interesting manner of communication.

But it (unfortunately) seems to be, that some few **** (so called tolerant and open-minded persons) really are only interested in having guy-talk.

Why not simply ignore them?

Cheers guys, now kill me for my statement. :x

Jo · 2005-09-18 10:21:43

alaclark wrote:

which sex do you honestly think derives the greatest, most intense, pleasure from sexual activity?

Everybody who is able to combine the sensual bodily pleasure with the emotional one. Females feel and experience in different levels. Males (too often) do not.

al · 2005-09-18 11:14:24

Now I became curious. What's a guy-talk?

tithonus · 2005-09-18 18:57:56

I suspect it means... something like "locker room talk". The way men talk when there aren't any women around.

I don't really feel qualified to say who gets more sexual pleasure than who out of what, but I do think in general it's fair to say that women are more interested in sex than men are. I think for men, it's really only the absence of oppurtunity to have as much sex as they'd like to be having that makes them - well, us - obsess over it. Given the opportunity to have sex whenever we feel like it, I think the intensity of interest fairly rapidly fades to something somewhere around the middle of our many priorities. Whereas for women... well, everyone's different, but I suspect, just for my own experience, that it's not quite like that, although what it is like, I couldn't rightly say.

pinguin · 2005-09-19 07:34:38

Roe,
If you post a question beginning with "All you guys..." what else do you expect if not "guy talk" from all of us guys?
Pinguin

asm2agny · 2005-09-19 13:04:34

Roe wrote:

I suppose it doesn't matter if the viewer chooses to discriminate against sex, cause either way both sexes are beautiful.

C'mon, Roe, why is it "discrimination" if a certain type of video doesn't appeal to someone? Why can't it be a simple matter of taste?

In a different thread I posted my response to the original question, but I'll summarize it here because I think it's relevant: I just don't enjoy the male agonies as much asI do the female ones. I watched a few of the early ones, didn't watch any more; when the original thread started I watch three of the later ones -- same response. They're just not arousing for me (and I'm not here to satisfy my intellectual curiosity, if you know what I mean).

Roe wrote:

Seeing the responses to my post, I suppose I don't quite fit in here.

We all "fit in" here, but I did find your first post to be somewhat "rude"; that's not really the right word but I can't think of a better one. Someone asked a question, people responded, you came back with "I think you're lying." That's not very nice, is it?

Fred

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splat · 2005-09-19 14:38:02

Roe wrote:

Seeing the responses to my post, I suppose I don't quite fit in here.

Sure you do. BA has genuine appeal to both men and women. A while back Richard or Lauren said they had more female than male subscribers.

You just didn't get the response you were expecting. I consider my self open minded. Watching the men simply does nothing for me. No small number of the men here really don't watch the males. Some do. Read back through the posts..

If you enjoy watching both sexes, that great! You are getting more out of BA then me.

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santabear · 2005-09-19 16:19:26

Hmmm. I'm not quite sure how to add all of this up.

If this site is "not about porography" (as has been repeatedly asserted), it's sort of missing the point to evaluate submissions in terms of what is arousing. (or am I missing something here?)

I'm a male, and definitely watch more girl agonees (agonettes?) than guy agonees (agoneurs?). Some of the females REALLY turn me on...others hardly at all. None of the guys do, but are interesting in their own way.

With the guys it's a bit of "you seen one you seen them all" for me, but my vote for the best guy agony would lean toward the guy in the dual overkill submission.

voyeur · 2005-09-19 18:50:28

santabear wrote:
If this site is "not about porography" (as has been repeatedly asserted), it's sort of missing the point to evaluate submissions in terms of what is arousing. (or am I missing something here?)

I think perhaps that what you are missing is the fact that each person involved (site owners, subscribers and agonees (though I must admit I am not crazy about that word)) has his or her reasons for doing it, and those reasons may be at wide variance. Also, there is little agreement in my experience on the exact definition of "pornography". So all of this discussion, it seems to me, is a little like intellectual masturbation; fun for the participants, sometimes enjoyable to watch, but unlikely to yield any substantive issue, if I am not torturing the analogy.

For myself, I was overjoyed to discover this site, as I have always found traditional pornography and erotica unsatisfying, mainly because it tends to leave too little to the imagination, and the imagination is the most powerful tool of sexual arousal that we possess. I am definitely in it for the sexual arousal, and in fact I find it hard to imagine anyone watching someone having an orgasm for any other reason, but this may just indicate the poverty of my imagination. For this reason I do not watch the male submissions (or should I say emissions?); I do not find them arousing. I think we are pretty much hardwired in this respect: the libido does not lie, and cannot be fooled. We find arousing what we find arousing, and no number of appeals to some kind of political correctness can do anything about that.

So while it is interesting to read what motivates different people to participate in this wonderful game, there seems to be little point in any attempt to pass judgement in the matter. say let each person get what they can out of it, and more power to them.

Derelict · 2005-09-19 23:01:57

I have not posted in the forum before but have been here a couple of weeks and am delighted to have found this site.

Being intensely interested as I am in both sexes, I watch the submissions of both, and to my own surprise I find the men to be all more-or-less plain-vanilla. I think it might be different if they were not masturbating, as I find my own orgasms to be completely different depending on whether I am masturbating or having sex with a partner. The latter orgasms are unquestionably more intense and more spontaneous.

Question for all, have you identified any of the male contributors who are clearly not masturbating? I can recall only one or two about whom I thought this was the case.

I hope you'll not throw eggs at me for this, but I cannot help but to observe:

(1) that a majority of Aussie women apparently wank to ambient traffic noises coming through open windows.

and

(2) that many Aussies of both sexes apparently learned to wank with their parents, or with Sister Mary Ophelia, lurking within earshot.

And as for "guy talk" -- guys, you should HEAR what these women discuss behind OUR backs! My bride returned yesterday from a slumber-party with her gal-pals and regaled me with several reconstructed conversations that turned me eleven shades of red.

salsasalsa · 2005-09-19 23:14:56

Jo wrote:

But it (unfortunately) seems to be, that some few **** (so called tolerant and open-minded persons) really are only interested in having guy-talk.
Why not simply ignore them?

And you think these sarcasms, to put it mildly, make --you-- a tolerant and open-minded person? But then, everyone is allowed to dream ...

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