Blur in artist 3665 Agony 2

richard · 2016-06-08 08:38:51

Yes cropping is what we prefer to do!

netsmart · 2016-06-08 20:15:19

richard wrote:

Because no man gives a toss whether his nipples are visible or not. Nobody is going to screencap them and send them to their peer group, classmates or workmates. Nobody is going to blackmail them over it. Nobody is going to jerk off over them. Nobody is going to get titilated if a guys's shirt gapes and a nipple is revealed. When every man in the world gets over women's nipples, that's when it will be normalised. It is not women's responsibility to show you their nipples for that end.

I can't agree that people don't jerk off or get titillated by men's nipples. People, both men and women, definitely do those things.

I don't disagree with you on your last point, though. No one is going to get over nipples if we keep treating them like they're dirty. It's circular. Nipples will be treated like they're dirty until men stop acting like their dirty, which they do because they're treated like they're dirty.

You're right, it's not a woman's responsibility to show nipples. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm talking about how the site treats men vs. the way it treats women, not about what the responsibility of men and women are. if anything, I'm saying that the site should be blurring and cropping men's nipples.

JamesGC · 2016-06-10 17:13:25

I would personally much rather we go back to cropping tighter than showing blurred areas of video. It's distracting and jarring, de-immersive if you will.
Of course I like seeing more breasts, more nipples, but if that's actually what I'm looking for, I'll go elsewhere. BA has to me been more personal, more intimate, and the blur takes away from that for me.

JamesGC · 2016-06-10 17:27:57

The blur in 3677 is nice because it's unobtrusive, only happens at the end, and allows us to enjoy the full shot of her repose without having to cut the video short or crop the video higher for the rest of the clip. I quite like that one, it's well done.
However in 3665s or 3701s revivals, it's blurred so much of the time it might as well have been cropped. It doesn't add anything for me.
I'm not saying I could do a better job editing, but I am saying as a long time fan of the site, that I'd prefer if videos didn't go in the direction of larger-frame with blur.

steve_z · 2016-06-13 23:43:07

Really good constructive feedback JamesGC. Thanks for being honest everyone, the feedback has been great and has certainly started a pretty important conversation.

JamesGC wrote:

The blur in 3677 is nice because it's unobtrusive, only happens at the end, and allows us to enjoy the full shot of her repose without having to cut the video short or crop the video higher for the rest of the clip. I quite like that one, it's well done.
However in 3665s or 3701s revivals, it's blurred so much of the time it might as well have been cropped. It doesn't add anything for me.
I'm not saying I could do a better job editing, but I am saying as a long time fan of the site, that I'd prefer if videos didn't go in the direction of larger-frame with blur.

JJ1234 · 2016-06-19 06:04:56

Blur everyone or unblur everyone. Blurring only the female contributors is sexist and does more to distract from the beauty of their contribution and oversexualize breasts than it does to protect anyone's privacy. The same amount of effort could be applied to sending a form letter e-mail to a contributor asking if they wish their breasts (male OR female) to be cropped or not than to just throw up a blur spot. I'm sure the majority of them watch their own videos before sending to make sure everything looks ok anyway. As for adhering to the tagline that is the website's original intent is to be the only erotic website without nudity, that's not even on the front page. It's hardly advertised that way with word of mouth. Nudity definitely shouldn't be the focus, as that's not what BA is about, but the occasional peek shouldn't be so scandalous. In fact, it's tantalizing. Just my two cents.

vregm225 · 2016-06-20 05:05:50

Hello, I'm a new user here. I've seen quite a few BA videos on other websites in the past years, and so I finally decided to join. First of all, I would like to thank all contributors and people working hard to provide us the content on this amazing website.

So here is my 2 cents regarding nip slips and naked breasts in general. From the very beginning I'd like to point out that I am here for the same reason as all of us, who enjoy seeing "big O" facial expressions, otherwise I wouldn't pay for the membership on this site and would take my business elsewhere.

I agree with JJ1234, all contributors watch their videos before submitting them, so if there is anything they don't feel comfortable about, they would probably not submit the video, or at least ask you to edit some particular parts of the video. Contributor #3671, who obviously enjoys touching her breasts in both her videos, is talking about how she finds it "quite disturbing how women's breasts are not allowed to be shown on facebook, and you have your photo removed". Granted, facebook may not be such a good example, but we're here on an adult website, and it looks like some people don't realize that, but we are here to enjoy seeing something really intimate, and, if for whatever reason, there is an accidental nip slip a couple of times throughout the video, or there is a contributor who explicitly shows her breasts in a heat of self pleasure passion, like #3166, then I really find it acceptable to show these moments. Even in video #3166, although we can see this lady's breasts for a few seconds, the main focus remains on her face and her emotions and feelings, rather than anything else. She has her shirt on throughout almost the entire video, and the way she expresses her enjoyment is over the top.

I want to add that I would definitely prefer keeping videos less edited, and I personally don't like videos being cropped. I don't feel like showing some nip slips here and there would hurt Beautiful Agony's concept (again, I am here for one of the most erotic ideas out there). In my personal opinion, breasts are the essential part of female's body and if a lady enjoys stimulating herself by touching them, it would only add up to the whole erotic concept. I don't feel like videos would become more porn oriented in this scenario, take a look at any porn website - it is waaaay different than what could possibly be here if there is slightly less editing in some videos. It's not like I am suggesting to show some intercourse, or even explicit masturbation. I don't think this would take any focus away from the main part of the video, and the main part being a face. It would only compliment the video by giving us a peek into what is going on without becoming too explicit. If a contributor doesn't want to show this (and this is totally normal if a person wants to keep privacy), she can keep her shirt on the entire time, cannot she?

I thoroughly respect the idea of "only faces, no nudity", but I would rather treat women's breasts more like mens beards or big muscles (not literally, of course), as a symbol of sexuality, than something dirty and only acceptable on hardcore porn websites.

If, however, there is no way Richard, all the team and contributors would find it acceptable to show less edited videos, then I'd prefer seeing more blurred videos, it still makes us feel more close to contributors. I personally like that sort of "experiment" with blur we saw in videos like #3665-A2 or #3677.

Again, this is only my 2 cents, and I totally understand some people will disagree, but I just wanted to share my opinion with people on this amazing website

Have a great day/night, everyone!

101 · 2016-06-21 05:29:55

At the risk of prolonging this thing...

The central concept of Agony is to be a porn site without nudity. The women who have submitted volunteered to show their face during orgasm, a very personal, vulnerable thing. They're already taking a leap to graciously share that with others to use as they wish. They didn't sign up to expose their breasts.

I probably prefer cropping to blurring myself to maintain the integrity of the image, but it's not my site to run.

richard · 2016-06-22 01:10:31

Don't assume that all the contributors watch their videos back, at least in entirety, before submitting. Some tell us they never want to see themselves, they only want others to. But also, there are some who would enthusiastically show not just their breasts - but that doesn't fit in with the site's credo, and anyway, ifeelmyself.com caters for that. If you enjoy a nipple here and there then I think you will find IFM most rewarding.

uri · 2016-06-28 06:32:46

netsmart wrote:

I can only speak for myself, but I find the blurring and obvious cropping to be very distracting. Personally, I think that there is more integrity and honesty in the videos unmodified than the "no nudity" ideal, which is somewhat hypocritical. There are men's nipples all over the place here, and I'd like to think of this as one of the view adult sites where that sort of double standard wouldn't be welcome.

I totally agree with your point.

ranger87 · 2016-06-28 11:43:10

101 wrote:

At the risk of prolonging this thing...
The central concept of Agony is to be a porn site without nudity. The women who have submitted volunteered to show their face during orgasm, a very personal, vulnerable thing. They're already taking a leap to graciously share that with others to use as they wish. They didn't sign up to expose their breasts.
I probably prefer cropping to blurring myself to maintain the integrity of the image, but it's not my site to run.

I agree 100 percent.

uri · 2016-11-08 13:22:02

Lady Valerie_Rose, BA 3671 talks about that topic on her confession from 00:16 to 01:04. A good view, I think.

Stuart432 · 2020-05-01 08:24:32

richard wrote:

We don't generally have conversational contact with them once the videos reach the editors but in any case we wouldn't be asking the question since they would assume any 'wardrobe malfunctions' would be edited out. But yes there have been some slip through over the years - our new editor Steve is more vigilant

Why the blunt answer to my question and the force closure of my question from yesterday? Arrogance perhaps or trying to loose a paying customer? I know that the site generally doesn't do nudity and I get that but there has been the odd slip now and then I know having seen some for myself. I was merely trying to create a list of such videos

richard · 2020-05-03 03:34:30

Stuart432 wrote:

richard wrote:
We don't generally have conversational contact with them once the videos reach the editors but in any case we wouldn't be asking the question since they would assume any 'wardrobe malfunctions' would be edited out. But yes there have been some slip through over the years - our new editor Steve is more vigilant
Why the blunt answer to my question and the force closure of my question from yesterday? Arrogance perhaps or trying to loose a paying customer? I know that the site generally doesn't do nudity and I get that but there has been the odd slip now and then I know having seen some for myself. I was merely trying to create a list of such videos

You're welcome to make your own list! But not here please.

VargasBill · 2021-05-01 21:16:03

Hello, first time poster.
Excuse my reviving this old thread, but it seems like 3665 has been removed. Was this an accident?
Thanks.

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