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Bishop Of Bath & Wells · 2005-07-08 23:08:54

A couple of great ideas there, Deeper. I especially like the search facility one - that would be very useful indeed!

Bish

Lago NY · 2005-07-09 04:05:59

My suggestion, more like a preference I lean towards, is to see what Id call an Assisted Living series of agonies where the person on camera is being attended to by someone off camera i.e.: copilot, wingman, sidekick, straight man, spouse, partner, etc. I think hands free versions have the potential for more erotic response from the assisted partner who now has hands able to wander and help articulate things for us viewers, and can benefit from encouragement, interaction and sharing the experience.

Bertlfix · 2005-07-28 12:26:02

I´m sure some (most?) of the members of BA took a loooong journey through the www, searching for something that is called real (female) orgasm movie (yes, I`m one of them), and found contracting buttholes, screaming, squirting, gushing, real hot violent forced teeny anal orgasms or other bullshit, needless to mention, that almost nothing there is real

When I joined BA, my first thought was: This site is so damned close to what I´ve been searching for since a long time. Why can`t this be a whole body site
Ok, meanwhile I´ve learned to enjoy the facial expressions, and yes, I agree, that the face offers the most erotic view during agony and that there is no reason to change the face-only philosophy of this site. But I still miss the real thing including the whole body

So here are my suggestions (or let`s call it my dreams):

Launch a further sister site
Same style as BA, of course same upgrade frequency :-), featuring the body orientated stuff no need for pornography there, clothed bodies shall be welcomed as well.

Alternatives link list
Yes, some alternatives have been linked and reviewed yet, but with the forum growing daily it is getting more and more difficult to find these links. I´m sure, that there is so much more in this crazy web offering REAL orgasms and I believe that many fans of BA share the same preference to watch, comment, compare, enjoy and masturbate along with movies of people having their individual, non-faked and non-posed orgasm. Maybe anyone you knows somebody, who`s neighbour`s colleague runs a little private site posting his/her daily masturbation movies why not share this in BAjust an example (ok, just another dream).

Maybe these or similar suggestions have been made anywhere else in this forum, if so: sorry for my blabla

`nuff said, back to work!

richard · 2005-07-28 14:29:05

Bertlfix wrote:

I´m sure some (most?) of the members of BA took a loooong journey through the www, searching for something that is called real (female) orgasm movie (yes, I`m one of them), and found contracting buttholes, screaming, squirting, gushing, real hot violent forced teeny anal orgasms or other bullshit, needless to mention, that almost nothing there is real
When I joined BA, my first thought was: This site is so damned close to what I´ve been searching for since a long time. Why can`t this be a whole body site
Ok, meanwhile I´ve learned to enjoy the facial expressions, and yes, I agree, that the face offers the most erotic view during agony and that there is no reason to change the face-only philosophy of this site. But I still miss the real thing including the whole body
So here are my suggestions (or let`s call it my dreams):
Launch a further sister site
Same style as BA, of course same upgrade frequency :-), featuring the body orientated stuff no need for pornography there, clothed bodies shall be welcomed as well.
Alternatives link list
Yes, some alternatives have been linked and reviewed yet, but with the forum growing daily it is getting more and more difficult to find these links. I´m sure, that there is so much more in this crazy web offering REAL orgasms and I believe that many fans of BA share the same preference to watch, comment, compare, enjoy and masturbate along with movies of people having their individual, non-faked and non-posed orgasm. Maybe anyone you knows somebody, who`s neighbour`s colleague runs a little private site posting his/her daily masturbation movies why not share this in BAjust an example (ok, just another dream).
Maybe these or similar suggestions have been made anywhere else in this forum, if so: sorry for my blabla
`nuff said, back to work!

Welcome to the site, and thanks for your suggestions. While we won't be chaning much about Agony, we are working on some ideas for a new site which might satisfy you.

Lago NY · 2005-07-28 18:26:24

Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone... bring on the cement mixers!

Bishop Of Bath & Wells · 2005-07-28 20:30:00

richard wrote:

Welcome to the site, and thanks for your suggestions. While we won't be chaning much about Agony, we are working on some ideas for a new site which might satisfy you.

That sounds intriguing, Richard. Care to share any more info, or is it strictly Top Secret?

Bish

richard · 2005-07-29 01:16:56

Bishop Of Bath & Wells wrote:

richard wrote:
Welcome to the site, and thanks for your suggestions. While we won't be chaning much about Agony, we are working on some ideas for a new site which might satisfy you.
That sounds intriguing, Richard. Care to share any more info, or is it strictly Top Secret?
Bish

Not much to say at this stage, it's little more than an idea.

Tothelions · 2005-07-30 01:12:26

I would like to see more of the upper body. Women would of course wear clothing. A bra or tank top would be ideal. This would be far more erotic.

al · 2005-07-30 11:14:29

Hi,

Have you ever considered offering a BONUS for notorious eye-shutters if they manage to look at the camera at the crucial moment? And then you could help them by verbally reminding them not to close their eyes. The huger the bonus, the more valuable the footage.
Ah, you're probably gonna say this is cruelty and disrespectful. Well, I don't know...

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johnp54 · 2005-08-01 14:38:50

I do agree Al, I would like to see the agonees maintain eye contact especially at the moment when climax is reached. Easier said than done, I'm sure. Personally, I like looking straight into a woman's eyes as she is having an orgasm, that's why I like this site, the expressions on their faces, priceless (sort of!) Now if we could only see the rest of their bodies!

PC elmo · 2005-08-02 13:05:56

al wrote:

Hi,
Have you ever considered offering a BONUS for notorious eye-shutters if they manage to look at the camera at the crucial moment? And then you could help them by verbally reminding them not to close their eyes. The huger the bonus, the more valuable the footage.
Ah, you're probably gonna say this is cruelty and disrespectful. Well, I don't know...

Cruelty? Not so much. Disrespectful? Only if you subject everyone to the same expectations. Everybody's different. But that's not the point.

The point is, verbally reminding them of anything requires a physical presence at the time of filming. Part of the pull of BA is that the agonees film themselves (or rely on close friends - though I don't think I've ever seen one from a hand-held camera, and I'm not sure I'd want to: it's only showing the face/upper torso anyway, and the stationary angle keeps the focus on the agonee(s), but anyway...).

Since each submission is self-recorded, the individual contributors can follow whatever suggestions they want, as I understand it, with the two major exceptions mentioned elsewhere on the forum -- nudity and copyrighted material, such as songs, that it would be difficult to get permission to replay.

jda · 2005-08-02 17:05:20

First of all congratulations to the site! Great concept, no nudity, still very arousing.

As suggestion perhaps, or rather a request since it is quite personal how about showing the girls' feet as well during the process (like split the screen or record it with a separate camera...)

I find feet very sexy, and sometimes I love to watch the girls' feet while they are coming, like curling, spreading their toes, etc...

Filming and showing feet I don't think the site would go beyond the "no nudity" threshold.

Keep up with the great work! :-)

croupier01 · 2005-08-02 22:45:16

This site offers something few other sites offer: authenticity! Quite a novel concept! Kudos for taking the erotic experience to a new level, Richard and Lauren. I'm not attached to the whole body experience although I think it might be a nice addition on a sister site or alternative member site. My curiosity has do more with why this expansion would open a "Pandora's Box"? Since there is little relationship between partial nudity or even tasteful full frontal nudity and so called porn which has less to do about art and more to do with graphic often lewd images primarily designed to arouse the lustful appetite, how does some nudity detract in any way from the intention to portray "Beautiful Agony"in its natural purity? Maybe I'm really dense, but this entire controversy and debate is totally lost on me. If agony is a full body experience which I know for me at least,it is, why should not the agony be unveiled in its all its glory? As there is nothing pornographic about a body in ecstacy to my knowledge, what is this issue all about? That fact that there IS an issue I guess is what perplexes me. It seems this schism between "no nudity" and the "whole body" visage is quite an artificial one that needs not exist and both camps could easily co-exist if a sister site were created to accomodate those who prefer a more visual experience versus an imaginary one. I see no camp as being more righteous or purist than the other, simply a difference in taste. Personally, I would love to see BA break out of the restrictive mold that I perceive it to be operating within and diversify to break down the walls of the porn taboo and demonstrate that when it comes down to pure, authentic human sexuality there is nothing lewd or pornographic about the human body or sexual climax. That indeed, these primal acts form the basis of our connection to the higher realms as taught in the Tantric texts. I in no way intend for my comments to be construed as a detraction from the current site as it exists now, just as a commentary on new horizons. Thanks again for bringing some honesty and authenticity to the sacred human sexual experience. Well done!

Hippy · 2005-08-02 23:10:58

I for one think that the reason BA stands out and is so unique and brilliant is the fact that we don't get to see more than the face. I can understand why people want to see more, but isn't that it? Desire? wanting more? It's fabulous!

Porn is everywhere on the internet, but this is something different, and thats what makes it so good.

Jo · 2005-08-03 00:41:36

croupier01 wrote:

It seems this schism between "no nudity" and the "whole body" visage is quite an artificial one that needs not exist and both camps could easily co-exist if a sister site were created to accomodate those who prefer a more visual experience versus an imaginary one.

There IS a sister page, namely ISM. (www.Ishotmyself.com)

The problem is, that some newbies do not know about that and (instead of first reading some topics and collecting more information) start about greeding for "whole body" or "more nudity" or "what-do-I-know-things". As long as there is no link to this other site (or people will change and take themselves TIME to read and search...) there will be EVER the discussion of the both camps. I have no prob with people searching for other contents than this site offers - as long as they search elsewhere...

richard · 2005-08-03 00:46:53

We have had a video submitted in which we see the full body (clothes on). Let's hear the arguments for and against putting it up on Overkill as a one-off.

jamesd · 2005-08-03 02:32:44

One argument is fairly simple for me: when playing he body of a partner I'm considering the effect on their whole body and enjoying the reactions of their whole body. Not to minimise the faces,which are wonderfully expressive, of course. What might be interesting is a pair with face and body, so you get both the face detail and body reactions.

croupier01, one argument is that for a given video size you can savor the detail of the facial reactions better if more of the video size is the face.

austin · 2005-08-03 04:14:18

Richard. I am always appreciative of any woman (I only watch the women, but I am sure this goes for both) who is kind enough to share such an intimate experience with us. While I have preferences and things I like more than other things, I try not to second guess the submissions of the agonies and to appreciate what it is she has submitted. So I say show them as they are. If some are full body, then that's the way she wanted to express herself and share this most intimate of experiences with us. Who are we to say the way she wants to share herself with us is wrong?

Richard. I say why not try it. If there is a drawback to it, then you can always stop putting them up.

Justme · 2005-08-03 08:24:06

I agree fully with austin. Let's give it a try.

asm2agny · 2005-08-03 12:18:19

Richard,

Yes, please post the full-body video to Overkill. At least one of the videos there may be a faked agony; surely this can't be any less "appropriate."

johnp54 · 2005-08-03 17:21:52

YES!
I would love to have a look at that one for sure! I acually prefer watching women masturbate while fully clothed, as opposed to nude. Only problem is that I'm sure people are going to say "we want more". Although I also subscribe to ISM as well, I find most of the videos a bit dissapointing. I was hoping it would at least be the the (wel sought after) version of BA with more exposure. Oh well, maybe some day I'll find it. Mind you, I have checked out abbywinters and it is worth looking into.

Jo · 2005-08-03 19:59:29

austin wrote:

Who are we to say the way she wants to share herself with us is wrong? ...I say why not try it...

johnp54 wrote:

Only problem is that I'm sure people are going to say "we want more".

...nothing points out more the whole discussion than these two statements...

I for my part stand closer to point two, because a posting of this overkill could be a future argument for "more"...

glee · 2005-08-04 04:27:58

I don't think a clothed full-body video would break the spirit of the site for me; while faces are great, the world of things that can be erotic without being explicit is pretty large. I would enjoy seeing it, and I definitely like the idea of Overkill containing videos that are a little bit different in addition to the return appearances.

On the other hand, if it would lead to Richard and Lauren getting lots of requests for things they don't want to put on the site, perhaps it's not worth the trouble. I suspect the people who want "more" will keep demanding it anyway, though.

suresh · 2005-08-04 05:38:31

Ive gone through the entire set of agonies and find them incredibly arousing....i guess it has to do with my own fantasies which invariably cetre around the girl having a long drawn out orgasm, either when she masturbates for me, when i have sex with her in the normal missionary position and especially when i perform slow sensuous cunnilingus on her....

Any one of the agonees on the site is therefore 'easy triggering fodder' for my fantasies... all i have to do is imagine myself in any one or other of the above situations!!!....it would have been 'helpful' if the camera angle were more positively suggestive....

Extending this liine of thought, I have a coupla suggestions:

(a) I would like to see agonies shot from a different camera angle: for instance from the 'crotch-level' pointing upwards at the face...as the girl relaxes resting her face against a raised pillow... sorta 'cunnilingus-performer's' point of view....as the girl lies back...relaxed and enjoying herself... (actually the usual camera angle now being used to capture agonies are 'slightly' unnatural in the sense many of us are not privileged to occupy a straight on position exactly above the girl's face as she experiences the orgasm...)

(b) I would like to see a few more Afro-American faces...girls...if possible 'duos'....

(c) I have luved the 'collages' some of the contributors have crafted out of the posted agonies... I have to confess that I personally experiment quite a bit with the clips using Windows Moviemaker...sometimes adding on 'extra-close-up' direct visuals of 'similar-looking girls' from other sources...kinda 'dupes'...the challenge is in mixing additional visuals and music in such a manner that it appears smoothly like part of the original agony....Mebbe you could have a kinda competition for collages with and / or without 'additions'...does it sound too crazy? (any way Im posting a sample of one of my 'master..er...pieces...'

(d) I have made compilations of the 'repeat' performers...and i find them particularly stimulating. For instance, i joined the three episodes of the 'energetic' duo...first their 'outdoor' conversation then the first episode...followed by the next...created a kinda continuous 'feature' effect. I'm sending that separately....Perhaps such repeaters' contibutions could be archived together....

And finally a comment about some of the suggestions that have appeared suggesting the whole thing be made free....This is the only sex-related site for which i have ever paid to be a member...and i think its been really worth it....

Congratulations....keep it up....:)=)

Suresh

PC elmo · 2005-08-04 21:22:21

croupier01 wrote:

Personally, I would love to see BA ... diversify to break down the walls of the porn taboo and demonstrate that when it comes down to pure, authentic human sexuality there is nothing lewd or pornographic about the human body or sexual climax.

I agree with Jo's above summary of this present discussion; THIS thought, however, is a topic all its own!

It tips the scales for me in favor of showing the video Richard asked about, and I think this is why (as briefly as I can) :

There is already a distinction on the internet between images that are intentionally nude for lewd or suggestive acts or poses, and images of people who just happen to be nude. It appears there always has been such a distinction. Even in the U.S., laws against internet pornography (usually) distinguish that broad target from more "pedestrian" moments. I suppose this would be most relevant to the issue of child pornography, but I also see it as relevant here.

Fully clothed sounds "pedestrian" enough not to cross the line BA is trying to hold. So long as it's the same beast from a different camera angle, I say go for it. The "whole different animals" are what we're wanting to keep out of the house.

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