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No1steelerfan · 2005-06-09 06:56:54

Hi Richard, Lauren!

Thought you would like to hear a suggestion that actually came from my lover. She wants to know if you can put a teaser for the next scheduled agony. Maybe a static vidcap or maybe a 10 second vid. She keeps saying to me that she would really like to know what's coming next, so I told her I would run it up the flagpole and see who salutes.

And to my fellow BA lovers, please use this thread for your suggestions.

Also I am trying desparately to get her to do an agony shoot. I think I have her just about convinced. The only problem is that she squirms around so much that she may wiggle out of frame. I'll keep trying though.

Keep up the great work, Richard, Lauren! And thank you to all of your wonderful contributing agonees.

richard · 2005-06-09 07:08:39

No1steelerfan wrote:

Hi Richard, Lauren!
Thought you would like to hear a suggestion that actually came from my lover. She wants to know if you can put a teaser for the next scheduled agony. Maybe a static vidcap or maybe a 10 second vid. She keeps saying to me that she would really like to know what's coming next, so I told her I would run it up the flagpole and see who salutes.
And to my fellow BA lovers, please use this thread for your suggestions.
Also I am trying desparately to get her to do an agony shoot. I think I have her just about convinced. The only problem is that she squirms around so much that she may wiggle out of frame. I'll keep trying though.
Keep up the great work, Richard, Lauren! And thank you to all of your wonderful contributing agonees.

Thanks for the suggestion, we'll probably do that when we get the new site code, which is, er, running a little behind at the moment. A suggestion for you: hold the camera for your lover so you can keep her in the frame!

klickmich · 2005-06-09 14:11:37

I think my suggestion is a repost, but who cares... : I suggest that the agonees should have small "characterisitcs" like the ones on ISM. I think the thought of what drives people to present their orgasm is more interesting than the agony itself.

squireone · 2005-06-10 17:00:46

Hi Richard/Lauren.
I have a question and a suggestion as follows.
Since orgasm encompasses more than just the "visage" would you consider showing even a brief view of the breasts if the agonee agrees? I believe others have requested this previously. Obviously this does not need to be pornographic!
Also since I am also a supporter of ISM and would like to pair those photo entries with the ones on beautifulagony could you give us some information or even a hint as to which are included on both sites?

sirgeorge · 2005-06-10 18:45:36

squireone wrote:

Since orgasm encompasses more than just the "visage" would you consider showing even a brief view of the breasts if the agonee agrees? ?

i'd say: listen to the sounds, watch the face and imagine the rest

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richard · 2005-06-10 19:28:21

squireone wrote:

Hi Richard/Lauren.
I have a question and a suggestion as follows.
Since orgasm encompasses more than just the "visage" would you consider showing even a brief view of the breasts if the agonee agrees? I believe others have requested this previously. Obviously this does not need to be pornographic!
Also since I am also a supporter of ISM and would like to pair those photo entries with the ones on beautifulagony could you give us some information or even a hint as to which are included on both sites?

Hi there,
No nudity, that would be opening Pandora's box. Maybe we'll do a "full body experience" site one day though.

As for matching the people up, you'll have to do your own research on that one, though ISM refers more often to BA these days as we're roughly syncing up the releases. (Within a few weeks anyway, instead of months). So it should get easier.

TMaxx · 2005-06-11 00:01:10

Richard..love the site as is...but would also be the first to sign up for the"full body experience". Please give it some serious thought.

msnevil · 2005-06-11 10:02:25

Personly, The Mrs.'s And I would love to see the "Full Body\Face" route. A vid focusing Both on the Body as well as the face.

Maybe a good idea? Would be to allow those who want to "expose" themselves more. To make a "Full Frontal" DVD. We (the Customers) could pay extra "for Bonus meterial". While Contributing part of the money to Educational\Charity events.

Another Idea would be a tiered "Monthly service" system. Much like ISM's. The purist's can pay the "base rate". And we the "Perverts" can pay more for the "Full frontal" type vids.

A Seperate while Joined pay scheme would allow the "purity" of this site to remain. While allowing the Dirty old Men\Women thier choice as well.

We would be willing to pay $30.00 a Month for such a site.

Perhaps a poll Would give you an idea. If a "full frontal orgasm" site would be feasible or Not.

Jo · 2005-06-12 11:33:10

msnevil wrote:

We (the Customers) could pay extra "for Bonus meterial"...
The purist's can pay the "base rate". And we the "Perverts" can pay more for the "Full frontal" type vids.

Why don´t you guys just understand that it´s not a question of money whether this page remains *pure* or added by some *full frontal* vids (or other *stuff*)?

The credo of this site is no nudity. Point.

...and that´s why I am here. I would surely leave the site if this credo was broken.

If nudity was presented (even in a sub-page) this would be the dead of the *beautiful*-part of this site.

Perhaps this means agony to you but isn´t the sites title *beautiful agony*?

TMaxx · 2005-06-12 12:46:00

Jo wrote:

If nudity were presented (even in a sub-page) this would be the dead of the *beautiful*-part of this site.

I respect your opinion, but I am not sure what you find about beauty and the nude human form to be mutually exclusive.

I would find it very beautiful to see what actions have caused such wonderful faces and reactions.

John9999 · 2005-06-12 14:25:51

If it works, don't fix it!

As to anything happening below the camera, we can use our own memory, imagination, or fantasies.

msnevil · 2005-06-12 15:17:55

Respectfully, Your arguements holds no water. Overkill Has many non orgasm "vids". With "Sex talk about orgasms, Orgasm games, Sex Organ, And Sexual fantasy stories." For exp.

And did any of you leave, Nope. But add nudity in "bonus meterial". Much like overkill. And Then you threaten to leave.

The Face is but a small part of the orgasm. Yes, we can see the Face or hear\read the "sexual" fantasies. But add Nudity and then its Not Beautiful. I strongly disagree..

What are you ashamed of?

(please Note, In no way would I want anything more then "masturbation vids". Instead I propose that ISM be added to Beautiful agony. On a "overkill" or seperate site. Much like "Intimate Moments" Dvd's that Richard has made in the past. And of which, I own.

An exp of a "Intimate Moments" Vid would be>

A female\Male talks about how she\he masturbates, her\his fantasies, her\his desires, and provides an exp of "self loving".

That is what interests me. And this would not make this site lose its Beauty. But instead enhance it. With its admiration of famale\male sexuality.)

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Deeper · 2005-06-12 19:56:30

OK... enough already. This is a suggestion box, not an opportunity to disrespect other people's opinions.

The discussion about nudity vs non-nudity belongs in another thread.

Please take it here: ("neck up") http://beautifulagony.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=94

...and please try not to take it so personally... We are discussing topics here, not trying to justify personal belief systems.

If you want suggestions, however, hows about:

a) A counter system. I'd be mildly interested to learn how many hits (or downloads) each submission has had.

b) A voting system. (Not my idea, I hasten to add. Personally, I hate the idea of "grading" the submissions, but I'm told it's a popular feature on other such sites)

c) A "Mission Statement" right at the top of the homepage... I'm certain it would actually invite a LOT more people to the site. (I have to admit It took me a while to understand the point of this site. It's therefore taken me a while to convince others that this is not a "perve" page )

d) A newsletter. I'd welcome an e-mail advising of recent updates, background stories, behind-the-scenes info, bios of Richard, Lauren & others...

More if I think of them... or if anyone else has them.

richard · 2005-06-13 01:26:39

Deeper wrote:

If you want suggestions, however, hows about:
a) A counter system. I'd be mildly interested to learn how many hits (or downloads) each submission has had.
b) A voting system. (Not my idea, I hasten to add. Personally, I hate the idea of "grading" the submissions, but I'm told it's a popular feature on other such sites)
c) A "Mission Statement" right at the top of the homepage... I'm certain it would actually invite a LOT more people to the site. (I have to admit It took me a while to understand the point of this site. It's therefore taken me a while to convince others that this is not a "perve" page )
d) A newsletter. I'd welcome an e-mail advising of recent updates, background stories, behind-the-scenes info, bios of Richard, Lauren & others...
More if I think of them... or if anyone else has them.

Suggestions noted.

The problem with implementing a counter is that I don't think we have download histories, so the bias would be well in favour of new clips, given that most downloads occur during the first few days of release.

Mission Statement: I like mystery and discovering things and I wanted the site to be a bit of an adventure. I hope that anyone who is likely to enjoy the site content would go straight for the free sample - there is always one on page 1 - and work it out for themselves.

But when I read the responses people make to Agony-pointing posts on blogs I realise that about half the net population have no clue, and even less patience. I will continue to hold on to the hope that they're the same half who wouldn't like it even if they did get it.

The Newsletter would be construed by most people as spam. Overkill is the place for that, I guess we just need to pull our respective fingers out (or off as the case may be) and put some intersting content on there that doesn't come from the Agonees.

yYYYYy · 2005-06-13 07:27:24

Richard, how's the BA DVD coming along?

richard · 2005-06-13 08:12:37

yYYYYy wrote:

Richard, how's the BA DVD coming along?

It's actually next on our "to do" list.

Jo · 2005-06-13 10:29:03

TMaxx wrote:

I am not sure what you find about beauty and the nude human form to be mutually exclusive.

My definition of beauty is perhaps another one than you might have. Nudity IS beautiful. And I like nudity. If it is presented in a respectful way. BUT it is not longer beautiful if it is presented in a manner of "stuff" like some people seem to want to see it here. And that's the point why I dislike the thought of implementing it on this site. It just doesn't fit to the intention of the BA philosophy.

Deeper wrote:

OK... enough already. This is a suggestion box, not an opportunity to disrespect other people's opinions.
The discussion about nudity vs non-nudity belongs in another thread.

OK. This is a suggestion box. But am I not allowed to post my opinion on the suggestions? You might find some ideas good, me not. That's not an offence against you or anybody else, just MY opinion.

If I should have offended anybody this was not my intention...

Just tell the way I feel...

Jo · 2005-06-13 10:39:36

msnevil wrote:

The Face is but a small part of the orgasm. Yes, we can see the Face or hear\read the "sexual" fantasies. But add Nudity and then its Not Beautiful. I strongly disagree..
What are you ashamed of?

It´s exactly the point I mentionned in the thread above. I am absolutely not against nudity. (Come on, I know NO man who does not want to see a woman naked...) But I am against nudity here on BA. Because BA presents beauty in an erotic way without fulfilling the same patterns you have anywhere else on the net. That's unique and any step towards nudity would kill this uniqueness. That's what I think.

msnevil · 2005-06-13 12:16:04

"OK... enough already. This is a suggestion box, not an opportunity to disrespect other people's opinions."

No one that I noted was offended. I certainly wasn't.

We simply state our opinions and go on.

"we are discussing topics here, not trying to justify personal belief systems."

Are we all supposed to be "yes" men\Woman, and not have a opinion?

msnevil · 2005-06-13 12:40:42

I understand your reluctence too add "nudity" in any kind at BA. Thats why I suggested a "overkill" type area, or perhaps a different site would work better. If needed.

Where else on the Web do you see the focus on female orgasms? Either you have the "gyno" view or the face view. Thats it. And usually the focus in on "faking" not reality.

For me, Male\female sex is a big turn off. As well as the same sex types as well. My "turn on" is watching a woman alone. Hence my attraction to this website.

For me, thats what makes it Erotic.

So I guess your stuck on the Beautiful, and I'm stuck on the Agony.

"It´s exactly the point I mentionned in the thread above. I am absolutely not against nudity. (Come on, I know NO man who does not want to see a woman naked...) But I am against nudity here on BA. Because BA presents beauty in an erotic way without fulfilling the same patterns you have anywhere else on the net. That's unique and any step towards nudity would kill this uniqueness. That's what I think".

Jo · 2005-06-14 10:42:18

msnevil wrote:

So I guess your stuck on the Beautiful, and I'm stuck on the Agony.

No1steelerfan · 2005-06-15 02:13:29

As soon as I posted this thread, I thought it would lead to this. First let me apologize to you Richard. I should, in my original post, have specified that I did not want this sort of discussion in here as there is another thread dealing with this.

It was merely my intention to get suggestions as to tweaking the site, NOT TO CHANGE IT!

Squireone and others, I think you will find that this site would quickly turn into one of "those" sites. One where you would have to join "sexkey" or some other AVS systems. This site is pure in it's art. It is the only site on the net like it. I do not want it to change at all. And though I can't speak for all members here, I would imagine that the majority here would not enjoy any fundamental changes.

And through the efforts and assurances of the administrators here (Thanks Richard!) this site will never allow nudity. If that's what you want, go elsewhere and find it. ISM is a great site for this and many of the contributors here are also contributors there, including Ruby, a frequent poster on these boards. (You're one of my fav's Ruby, if only because I feel I kind of know you through your posts here.)

And finally, I will now ask that the hijack of this thread and the debate about nudity end and only suggestions be made here.

dfwpeter · 2005-06-15 05:58:54

klickmich wrote:

I think my suggestion is a repost, but who cares... : I suggest that the agonees should have small "characterisitcs" like the ones on ISM. I think the thought of what drives people to present their orgasm is more interesting than the agony itself.

Not so sure it's "more interesting than the agony itself" but yes I'm always a bit curious about my fav's - That why I do love the agonists who comment in their videos...

nghia9 · 2005-06-16 18:52:07

nghia9

The BA focus is on facial expression, not on method of reaching orgasm. I would nevertheless like to witness that expression on a woman raching climax by thrusting her vulva under a bathtub tap turned on full. The sound of rushing water should add to the pleasure.

Jo · 2005-06-16 19:49:00

nghia9 wrote:

I would nevertheless like to witness that expression on a woman raching climax by thrusting her vulva under a bathtub tap turned on full. The sound of rushing water should add to the pleasure.

Try out vid #0012...

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