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This is very much a minority subject but I believe, subject to mikes being in the right places, it should be possible to record this. Would be interesting to know if any of the participants on the site qualify.
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Personally, I think, and this is based soley on the various clips I've seen on the net, that female ejaculation is nothing more than a myth. A veiled attempt to sexualize and eroticize urination. I find this totally disgusting and vile.
Some things just go beyond the realm of the sensual and erotic and become base and morose. It's akin to a person who slowly become hooked on stronger and stronger drugs. First is marijuana, then cocain, then speed, then heroine, etc...
In this case, sex is the drug. Anything that would be cosidered "mainstream" sex is not exciting enough. One has to graduate progressively to anal sex, then red-sex, cumming on someone's face, bondage, urination, defecation, animal sex, mutilation, etc... Where does it stop? When does a person say....ENOUGH ALREADY!!!?
I know I might get blasted for this but it is my opinion that some people are just out of control. A man, or a woman for that matter, who never learns to say, "enough", not just to sex but in any area of his/her existence, is doomed to have a miserable life that is always veiled by justification, excuse and a never ending search for something more exciting. Learn to be satisfied and enjoy what you have. That's what makes you truely wealthy.
Okay Salsa, bring it on. I know you're out there lurking and itching for a fight!
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Garybob, sorry to tell you but you are wrong. Some girls do ejaculate when they have their orgasm. I don't want to speculate about the content of their ejaculation but they do it and with a impressive trajectory sometimes.
There is videos made by relatively serious women about female ejaculation.
On the other hand it looks like you want to put some rectriction on what the people find arousing or not. Have a look in any serious sex book and you will find that anal sex, mild BD, mild SM ...etc are all facets of the human sexuality as long as it is made between consenting adults. 50 and 100 years ago masturbation was considered as an abomination or able to make you sick and blind. I don't find agonees on BA being sick or blind.
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Erdna:
I just re-read my post. Please don't misunderstand me. I don't want to put any restrictions on anyone. What people do behind closed doors is their own business as far as I'm concerned and I know saying that now sounds almost contradictory.
My point is/was that some acts are objectively out of the realm of "normal" or mainstream and it appears that some may have difficulty in setting limits on themselves. Particularly those who allow themselves to be used a toilets. Some may find that sexy and erotic and if so, more power to them. But it seems so over the top by today's standard, whatever they are, such acts are indecent. Perhaps in the future that may not be the case.
As to the female ejaculation thing, I am still not convinced. Yet I must admit that I only have my own experiences to draw on. I am 43 years old and have had quite a number of partners in my time. Yes, quite a few and lucky as I am to have not been afflicted with some dastardly disease, I also have never had a partner who ejaculated anything. And I have always been intent on allowing my partner to have orgasm or two before I do.
I don't doubt that there has been some research on this and perhaps many are convinced that "the content" of such ejaculation is something other than urine. Knowing the female anatomy however, I just can't see or understand where this "substance" would originate from.....other than the bladder.
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From http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm
The female prostate is actually a collection of paraurethral glands. These glands surround the female urethra on all sides and empty into it through many small ducts. "Paraurethral" simply means "near the urethra." These glands can be seen in the illustration shown above. (Additional illustrations from the book Eve's Secrets by Josephine Lowndes Sevely can be seen in the Anatomy section.) The paraurethral glands are also called "Skene's Glands." The largest of these glands, there may be as many as thirty or more, are located near the urethral orifice and may in some cases open into the vulva. The quantity, size, and placement of these glands varies from woman to woman. During sexual arousal the paraurethral glands fill with fluid and may in some cases be felt through the vaginal wall; as demonstrated in the illustration at the top of the page. These glands produce the same alkaline fluid as the male prostate.
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Up to now i found two squirting Beautiful Agonys:
0013, QuickTime, from 00:01:06 to 00:01:09 and
0082, QuickTime, from 00:03:48 to 00:03:51
Long live the hedonism, –enjoy your sexual pleasure!
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Female ejaculation exists. I know it becuase I experienced it with one girl, just the one even though I've had many partners. Her name was Vanessa, she was 18 when we first had sex and she ejaculated with every orgasm, in rather copious quantities. I knew nothing of female ejaculation at the time and assumed it was urine which I found odd, especially as she didn't talk about it. I subsequently checked it was not urine. Why only a small perecentage of women ejaculate I don't kbow. That it exists I do know and that it is not urine I also know.
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There is a certain technique involved, to cause the urethra to swell with ejaculate and then release it. This spring I mastered how to do it fairly reliably on most women
I can assure you it is NOT urine. Chemically it's quite similar to male ejaculate, except without the semen of course. The vaginal area gets very lubricated during sex via secretions, why is it hard to believe that some people can secrete large volumes of fluid from the urethral tract? Because you've never experienced it you want to dismiss it. How sad for you.
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From Suzannah:
The curious thing is that solosex seems to be confined to teens and twennies.
Why?
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I agree that female ejaculation is real. I also had a lover once who ejaculated regularly... not with every orgasm but usually once during a session. In her case she did not ejaculate an enormous quantity nor did it flow in a stream the way you see in some videos. She spurted very similarly to the way I did... about the same amount of fluid and with a similar squirting response.
I do suspect that some ejaculation videos actually depict urination, but I hesitate to say for sure given the wide variation in human sexual response. In any case I don't think a woman urinating during orgasm is necessarily a bad thing. I've even heard that arranging such a result on purpose can actually enhance the climax. I do object to intentional deception and I suspect some adult web sites are actively doing that with respect to the issue of female ejaculation.
In any case my experience with female ejaculation is that it really does occur... at least in some cases.
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Garybob, I told you female ejaculation does exist. I have seen it. Not every girls can do it but it exists. Women are not about to finish surprising us. Thanks all of you who confirmed that fact.
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In Norway up until ca 1970 some found sex with the woman on top "useful when the man is weak and powerless". Some still concidered male masturbation ("runking" in norwegian) to be a sin, and sex between men was still a fellony. Other right honoreable gentlemen wondered how women could develop an orgasm "from the mere in and out motion of the penis". Now we know that that movement alone does not make women cum.
I guess women just didn't count back then in 19700 BC ... uh, sorry ... 1970 AD.
Me thinx we have some catching up to do on the understanding of human sexuality in general, and on female sexuality in particular.
Last edited by Tonning (2005-11-20 17:25:05)
... neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
for the swine will slide - cast ye straw or sawdust!!
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Tonning, you should be careful in some of your statements. Yes some women can get an orgasm by just the motion of the penis in their vagina. Even better, some woman can get an orgasm from breast fondling only. A friend of mine, a woman, told me she could get an orgasm when doing a blow job on her boyfriend since that kind od sex was extremely exciting for her. Remember that the clitoris has a major role in the woman excitement but the most important organ for excitement is the brain and the imagination it generates.
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Tonning, you should be careful in some of your statements. Yes some women can get an orgasm by just the motion of the penis in their vagina. Even better, some woman can get an orgasm from breast fondling only. A friend of mine, a woman, told me she could get an orgasm when doing a blow job on her boyfriend since that kind od sex was extremely exciting for her. Remember that the clitoris has a major role in the woman excitement but the most important organ for excitement is the brain and the imagination it generates.
Okay, I agree to that, I have read reports on women who claim to climax from thought only. I have no reason to disbelieve them, and I should have stated that we know that women generally do not climax from that in-and-out-movement alone.
Power to those who do, but then again they do not represent an argument for us men to stay lazy, do they.
... neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
for the swine will slide - cast ye straw or sawdust!!
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Alas for us! women have more orgasm capability than us men. That's why we need to be careful to please them first with as much as they want rewarding orgasms before getting our. Several agonees showed us they could get 3 orgasms in a relatively short period of time. Good for them. Also what is interesting is to have a girlfriend able to get an orgasm in many different ways. That exists too. Girls, any comments?
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Tonning, thought only might resemble the time I was having breakfast in a diner with a partner who responded particularly well to me and she had an orgasm wihle I verbally reminded her of the previous night's activities. There's room to speculate about pressure from the chair but there wasn't more than that going on.
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Ok, I'll answer myself now! Ms 359's Overkill...at 4.08 something happens, may well be an ejaculation. Check it with the volume up and see!
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Erdna:
Well, if you say it exists, then I can't say that I really can argue with you. I mean, just because I have never experienced anything like that [and hope I never do] doesn't mean that it isn't a fact.
As to the women and their ability to reach orgasm in a variety of different ways, you reminded me of an experience I had a few times with a fairly large breasted woman who said she reached orgasm while I fondled and manipulated her boobs. I was very, shall we say, "intrigued" by this since I had never seen anything like it. But she bucked and quivered the same way from breast fondling that she did from cunnilingus. I had doubts and thought she was just an amazing actress at the time but found her quite stimulating in any case.
There is something to the "pressure from the chair" thing as well. Easier to believe. I've also known women who had orgasms while riding a bike since the peddling motion caused the hips and crotch area to slide from side-to-side.
This is really quite fascinating. Women, I guess are far more versitile than us guys.
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Tonning, thought only might resemble the time I was having breakfast in a diner with a partner who responded particularly well to me and she had an orgasm wihle I verbally reminded her of the previous night's activities. There's room to speculate about pressure from the chair but there wasn't more than that going on.
Women, I guess are far more versitile than us guys.
I do really believe that woman (and btw. men also...) are able to reach orgasm without any physical stimulation. Mind is a mighty instrument!
L'éssentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
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Well, if you say it exists, then I can't say that I really can argue with you. I mean, just because I have never experienced anything like that [and hope I never do] doesn't mean that it isn't a fact.
Why would you hope you never do? Some people are just so stigmatic...
I for one think it would be incredibly arousing.
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I don't ejaculate in my BA as it is not an everyday sort of thing for me but I do talk about my experience of ejaculation in my confession (C1301). Starting to ejaculate was quite a delicious milestone in my sexual experience and although at first it only happened with my lover I can ejaculate solo if I am really aroused.
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I love how sexuality and sensuality in all forms is constantly exploding myths and yet simultaneously creating new ones. Personally, I love the curiosity and the mystery of not knowing how I will be, with whom and when or where. I am currently living in Thailand, the land where many a foreigner comes to meet women, but not white chicks like me, they come for Thai women, so who could even guess what my next sexual/sensual encounter may be......... But most of all, I love that people are actually discussing sex and sensation. I have daughters and hope they meet men (or women) with healthy outlooks on their sexuality.
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Hi gladys (1197) one more!
Soon I am in Thailand again for two or more months. See you (joke)!
http://beautifulagony.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1037
From 2008-05-15
Long live the hedonism, –enjoy your sexual pleasure!
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girls can come, you just have to try harder , haha opps for you.
light, conscious descisions, enlighten your mind,
with this life, and the next.
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Garybob: I find your statements disgusting and vile. As someone in the process of actively teaching myself to ejaculate what you have to say is highly obnoxious and offensive.
For starters how exactly do you presume to know what the female body can and can't do when you're not even in one? Let alone think you're any position to comment on whether what our bodies do are good or bad.
Secondly have you devoted any time to researching this topic at all? Because if you had of even taken the most remotest of looks at any literature; print, web or otherwise you would soon come across all the information available on this topic.
Thirdly the lovely lady who sits across the office from me ejaculates, as does the one through the wall I'm facing and I've seen them do this repeatedly, talked to them at length about it and think they will have something to say about ejaculation being the supposed "veileded attempt to sexualize and eroticize urination"
And finally you'd think being here sharing in the Beautiful Agony experience would mean you have some sort of sexual open-mindedness and intelligence. To think women pretend to ejaculate just so they can covertly piss in a sexual manner is so beyond ludicrous.
It sickens me the way people shitcan things just because they don't understand it.
What consenting adults do behind closed doors is up to them and it is not your duty to pass judgement. Personally water sports are not my thing, but for many people its the thing that turns them on and they should be able to go for it without self important bigots getting on their soap boxes.
Agony #220
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